5/16 socket stuck on oil pump drive/in-car oil pan removal help?

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Re: 5/16 socket stuck on oil pump drive/in-car oil pan removal help?

Post  nuclearcobra on Mon May 02, 2011 7:49 am

richter69 wrote:an old dizzy with the gear taken off and the topside stripped where you can get a drill on it is the best tool in the world for priming an engine...............but that is beside the point.
No thats second best the best tool would be a oil pump primer there cheap enough and yes they have a locking 1/4'' drive the new craftsman 1/4'' extension i just got is the new style and it has a little tab you have to push to unlock it. You will have to put it against the socket and get a skinny flathead to pry up the little tab to get it in the socket but its worth a try or i would do the jb weld kwik thing just make sure you get it clean with some brakeclean first.

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Post  richter69 on Mon May 02, 2011 3:36 pm

even better^^^^^^ oil pump that is not in the pan.............driven by a belt............. bounce

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Post  whatbumper on Mon May 02, 2011 3:49 pm

richter69 wrote:even better^^^^^^ oil pump that is not in the pan.............driven by a belt............. bounce


that's what I was thinking. Our fuel pump is on the back of the oil pump so when he hit the wall the other night the belt got knocked off and killed the fuel supply. No oil pressure=no fuel with that setup

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Post  nuclearcobra on Mon May 02, 2011 4:38 pm

richter69 wrote:even better^^^^^^ oil pump that is not in the pan.............driven by a belt............. bounce
Yes thats the real deal Wink

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Re: 5/16 socket stuck on oil pump drive/in-car oil pan removal help?

Post  andymarkv on Tue May 03, 2011 7:12 am

Thanks Guys for everything!!!!!!

I went to Sears and bought a nice three piece 1/4" extension set with locking tips. Then I bought adapters for my 1/2" impact.
Just hitting it clockwise wasn't enough. So I hit it in both directions six times and it pulled right out.

I put a brand new socket on and primed the pump, it came right off no problem.

Then I caught it on fire from a gas leak...... Thank God for fire extinguishers.... If you don't have one in the shop, GET ONE! I'm starting to think I'm not qualified to touch anything!!!!!
But we did get it running and everything seems OK..... We'll see.

I feel so relieved that I didn't have to pull the pan.... It was the ideas and suggestions you guys gave that helped me get through this!

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Post  res0rli9 on Tue May 03, 2011 7:46 am

cheers Glad you got out ok. Cool

good luck with everything else.



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Post  BigBlockRanger on Tue May 03, 2011 8:07 am

andymarkv wrote:
Then I caught it on fire from a gas leak...... Thank God for fire extinguishers.... If you don't have one in the shop, GET ONE! I'm starting to think I'm not qualified to touch anything!!!!!


Holy crap, lmao!

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Post  jasonf on Tue May 03, 2011 8:41 am




Holy crapper batman, sounds like you need to step away for a day or two.

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Re: 5/16 socket stuck on oil pump drive/in-car oil pan removal help?

Post  andymarkv on Tue May 03, 2011 9:32 am

Yeah, it was a comedy of errors.... We had used thin .016 copper head gaskets and I was extremely paranoid about them leaking. We fired the car and it sounded good, but we were having some weird weather conditions. Semi warm with cold air coming in, slight drizzle and very humid. Well that makes for HUGE, and I mean HUGE clouds of steam out the exhaust. So I freaked out and shut it down. Probably super lucky that I did....
I pulled all the plugs and everything looked fine. Pulled the coil wire and grounded it to the valve cover and started doing a compression check. (all cylinders are now 175-180, from 160psi)
At some point the fuel started leaking from the carb inlet and the sparking coil wire set the fumes on fire. (the leak was a good 8-10" away from the spark) And anyone that has worked on a gas fire knows they are pretty miserable to put out. The fuel line still had pressure so it kept feeding the fire.
Two short blasts from the extinguisher put it out, but if had burned through the fuel line with the pressure behind it...it could have gotten ugly fast.

It was a new clamp on the fuel line to carb. The slot for the straight blade screw driver wasn't very deep and apparently I didn't get it tight..... I pulled on it and couldn't turn it so I thought it was tight enough.

I think things are OK now. But I'm going to be watching the whole car it like a hawk and won't be comfortable until I get some run time on it.

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Re: 5/16 socket stuck on oil pump drive/in-car oil pan removal help?

Post  psquare75 on Tue May 03, 2011 9:51 am

At least you got the socket out, it could have been worse..... I lost the oil pump shaft deep in the oil pan of my F100 once when I was in college.. Of course it was my only car.. Of course I had an exam the next day.
("Oh? There's supposed to be a retainer?": Said after I heard ::CLINK!Smile


Glad you didn't burn up.

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Re: 5/16 socket stuck on oil pump drive/in-car oil pan removal help?

Post  cool40 on Tue May 03, 2011 10:05 am

this makes me think of my first build,351w.i did'nt put the oil pump shaft in and found it after it was all together in the car.i knew it went in but thought it went in with the diz,well it did.after i figured out i'd f******d up i took the clip off the shaft,took a bfh and smacked the end of it and drove it in the diz! it worked fine that way.lol

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Re: 5/16 socket stuck on oil pump drive/in-car oil pan removal help?

Post  mustang68mustangs1 on Tue May 03, 2011 6:33 pm

If it was me I would put the extension back in the socket and wiggle the top of the extension real good back and forth. I just dont see it not coming off.If all else fails I like the JB idea.
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Post  mustang68mustangs1 on Tue May 03, 2011 6:36 pm

Sorry ignore the above post I didnt read the second page. Glad You got it taken care of!
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