body separation

cool40 wrote:now we can share! http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?p=983373&posted=1#post983373

I completely missed that older thread, I thought you were referring to the newer one about anti-squat/percentage of rise.

All the references to Dave Morgan's chassis book are fine, but sometimes some people put the book a little too high up-on a pedestal. His book can be a great resource, especially for the beginner, but it isn't 100% right 100% of the time. And Dave's stuff isn't the only reading out there, there's Bickel's stuff, and even the ancient Alston ring-binder book is worth a read (if you can find it). One down side to Dave's book for the beginner is it can be a little too "math-ish" & technobabble at times for readers who aren't into geometry.

But to be honest sometimes all the so called "correct" chassis book math does get thrown out the window anyway when enough power is thrown at some cars. Real world track test results trump "book theory" results every time.

BigDave65 wrote:.........I can't seem to get anyone to film nowdays.

Dave if you tow the car to the staging lanes, would it be possible to talk the person driving the golf cart/4 wheeler into also doing the filming?

I drive mine to staging Dave. I know from experience it's aggravating for a crew guy to help me and fool with a camera. My mom used to film all the time, but she can't make it as often anymore. I pretty much have my car where I want it. On a decent track I'm 1.17 60's and they won't hardly vary more than .01-.015 all day, it's just as consistent as you'd ever want. Even with body seperation in the car! But it's cool to have the good races on film. I've been lucky enough to have quite a few wins on video, and a few screw ups too.

DILLIGASDAVE wrote:

cool40 wrote:now we can share! http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?p=983373&posted=1#post983373

I completely missed that older thread, I thought you were referring to the newer one about anti-squat/percentage of rise.

All the references to Dave Morgan's chassis book are fine, but sometimes some people put the book a little too high up-on a pedestal. His book can be a great resource, especially for the beginner, but it isn't 100% right 100% of the time. And Dave's stuff isn't the only reading out there, there's Bickel's stuff, and even the ancient Alston ring-binder book is worth a read (if you can find it). One down side to Dave's book for the beginner is it can be a little too "math-ish" & technobabble at times for readers who aren't into geometry.

But to be honest sometimes all the so called "correct" chassis book math does get thrown out the window anyway when enough power is thrown at some cars. Real world track test results trump "book theory" results every time.

I started out with the Alston Chassis Manual. I probably read that thing about 15 times before it started making sense. It is a bit dated but a lot of good solid info is in there. By the time I applied the info to the car I had at that time (which was the red/white '69 Mustang 2x3 car) It just became a hooking beast. The proverbial "hooking in a mudhole". The slicker the track was the bigger advantage I had.

I also have the Rick Jones book. It has some good info, but a lot of it leans more toward the Pro Stock level car. Some of the things just don't apply to a 8-900 hp bracket car.

what i could'nt understand about that other thread was.............wtf are they looking in "the book"to find out about a mud/sand truck?i know some of the basic shit will be the same but damn it's like put'n mud tires on a moped.