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Post  airford1 on August 28th 2011, 6:55 pm

Engine has a mid rpm range miss so I check the timing and it's at 22', but only advances to 32'. Tried to reset initial timing back to 14' and the engine doesnt want to idle. I have sent this MSD box back before for the timing going crazy. what else could it be? Here we go , coil, dist, dist gear, bad mechanical advance, plugs/ cap and rotor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Post  BigDave65 on August 28th 2011, 8:16 pm

Do you have zero chips in the timing retards or have all the retard terminals grounded?

What distributor are you using?

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Post  airford1 on August 29th 2011, 6:39 am

Yes zero chip in all timing retards and I am running a MSD pro billet magnetic trigger dist. Pretty simple. It is starting to act like the rev limiter is coming on.

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Post  jbozzelle on August 29th 2011, 8:31 am

Have you changed out the rev limiter chip? They've been known to go bad before.

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Post  cool40 on August 29th 2011, 8:29 pm

jbozzelle wrote:Have you changed out the rev limiter chip? They've been known to go bad before.
mine did this year and Blake had one also go bad about the same time. if your timing is moving around and you rule out the diz,check your endplay on your cam. fords dont often have the issue like a chevy with the roller and cam button B/S.

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Post  airford1 on August 29th 2011, 9:13 pm

I acts like the rev limiter is coming in . I had the same problem when it was new and sent it back to MSD, they replaced a resistor board and sent it back. I got about 30 passes on it and it's starting to do the same thing.I will swap the box out and if its the box I'm really pissed.

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Post  cool40 on August 29th 2011, 9:25 pm

i've been told the 3box was a pos,but i never had one.

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Post  psfracer on August 30th 2011, 9:52 am

I had problems with my 7AL3, changed out to the 7AL2 Plus and haven't had a problem since. My timing was moving around also, and I had zero chips on all for retards as well.

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Post  56Tbird on August 30th 2011, 10:23 am

My 7AL3 is back at MSD right now ,for the 3rd time in the last 18 months!! I'm not real pleased with it at ALL. $169 last trip to fix it. At least this time it just completely quit after 2 passes of of clicking on and off at full throttle. Hopefully it didn't lift a head gasket or something worse this time!! It may have to find a new home Evil or Very Mad

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Post  56Tbird on August 30th 2011, 11:06 am

I just talked to MSD and they're going to send me a different 7AL3 since mine has been back 3 times in the last 18 months. I hope it's better than the last one!!

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Post  psfracer on August 30th 2011, 11:31 am

I would have them send you an 7AL2 Plus instead, seriously, unless you need the features of the 7AL3.

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Post  BigDave65 on August 30th 2011, 3:20 pm

I know some have had issues with the 7AL-3's. but I've had one since my car was new in 1998 and (knock on wood) I haven't had the first issue with it. I guess it's cause I bought a used box out of a P/S truck to keep for a spare. I've tried blaming the box for troubles a few times but it's never caused any.

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Post  maverick on August 30th 2011, 5:52 pm

A friend and I chased 7AL3 gremlins after switching from 6AL and 7AL2 boxes. After the boxes made repeated trips back to Texas for repairs, (MSD kept saying they were OK when they received them.) we started looking at other stuff. Suspect We found that we had to readjust rotor phase in order to make the car run right.
That is to say that when we swapped a 7AL3 into a good running car (removing either a 6AL or a 7AL3) the rotor phase had to be changed Question in order to get the car down the track. No, I can't explain it, either, but...... Rolling Eyes

Anyway, since yours was running OK before, then developed the problem....I doubt that's your trouble, but I thought you guys might wanna know.

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Post  Lem Evans on August 30th 2011, 6:02 pm

The 7AL-2 Plus is a very good ignition.........if a guy needs more it looks like jumping to 7 Digital is the way to go.

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Post  airford1 on August 30th 2011, 6:25 pm

cool40 wrote:i've been told the 3box was a pos,but i never had one.

So far I would have to agree. I is a shame to have a back up box just to know you can go racing for the weekend.

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