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Post  bb429power on September 3rd 2011, 5:09 pm

Well I put the c6 in, the engine would turn over freely but now it wont budge. I loosened the bellhousing bolts up and then it would turn over fine. I did this with the converter tightened and loosened. I don't know what could be causing this. I know that on the old flexplate there was a ring that all the flexplate bolts go through. I put that on, on the trans side of the plate. Is it possibly supposed to go on the engine side? Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Post  QtrWarrior on September 3rd 2011, 5:20 pm

It almost sounds like you don't have the converter fully "seated" in the trans pump.
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Post  f250mike on September 3rd 2011, 5:29 pm

QtrWarrior wrote:It almost sounds like you don't have the converter fully "seated" in the trans pump.

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Post  bb429power on September 3rd 2011, 5:38 pm

When I put the converter on the trans I spun it a bunch and it went in all the way, I'm 100% sure it did... BUT now you got me thinking, maybe it popped out a lil when we lifted the trans and put it up to the engine. I will have to check, probably tomorrow
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Post  f250mike on September 3rd 2011, 6:11 pm

Justin measure from the face of the bellhousing to the mounting pad on the converter.
You need approx 1 1/8" in between.
If it doesn't measure right, your converter isn't in the pump.

Does your converter have 7/16" studs?
If so did you drill the flexplate holes out?

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Post  bb429power on September 3rd 2011, 6:14 pm

Mike, I'll check.... and the converters studs all went through the flexplate with ease...
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Post  f250mike on September 3rd 2011, 6:27 pm

It looks like your going to pull the trans out.
On a good note, there's lots of room under our trucks Laughing.
You should be able to slide it back a couple inches to get at the converter.
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Post  bb429power on September 3rd 2011, 6:32 pm

Yep, that's my current plan haha. Well the cab is off so its even easier! So I'll pull it tomorrow and get back with yall on how it works out. I just got under it and tried to measure it and it was about 1 1/8" like you said, but I'm not sure if I measured the right part. Either way, its coming out Laughing
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Post  bb429power on September 3rd 2011, 7:51 pm

Okay here's what that bolt plate looks like
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I have this on the trans side with the bolts pressing against the flexplate. Is that correct? I found another one I have from this truck, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't for the flexplate.
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Post  bosshoss on September 4th 2011, 12:29 am

Did you index the converter drain plug so it goes through the little extra hole in the flex plate?

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Post  res0rli9 on September 4th 2011, 12:57 am

bosshoss wrote:Did you index the converter drain plug so it goes through the little extra hole in the flex plate?

dkp


scratch scratch scratch Smile

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Post  bb429power on September 4th 2011, 10:50 am

bosshoss wrote:Did you index the converter drain plug so it goes through the little extra hole in the flex plate?

dkp

The drain plugs (theres two) match up to the holes on the flexplate, without hitting them.
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Post  jbozzelle on September 4th 2011, 12:05 pm

1) Make sure the distance from the face of the trans to the converter pads is greater than the distance from the back of the block to the flexplate. You always want to be able to "pull" the converter forward into the engine about 3/8" max.

2) Did you make sure the converter seated fully in the back of the crank pilot. I always test fit the converter into the flexplate and pilot. Maybe your converter fell a bit and is not fully seated in the pilot. I've had that happen before...

3) Make sure the converter drain plugs are lined up too.

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Post  bb429power on September 4th 2011, 1:24 pm

I checked it on the engine before I filled it with fluid, it fit fine. I can't really see if its seated right now though and it may not be. The drain plugs line up to the holes. And I will have to check the 1st thing you listed.
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Post  crittersf1 on September 4th 2011, 2:43 pm

bb429power wrote:When I put the converter on the trans I spun it a bunch and it went in all the way, I'm 100% sure it did... BUT now you got me thinking, maybe it popped out a lil when we lifted the trans and put it up to the engine.
I will have to check, probably tomorrow


Should be able to feel 3 distinct steps as the converter seats in the pump
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Post  f250mike on September 4th 2011, 2:49 pm

Hey Justin get your current issue figured out but don't bolt it back together!!!
I just talked with bob and you have converter heading your way.
I sent a PM requesting your address.

Have a good day
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Post  richter69 on September 4th 2011, 3:18 pm

after the trans is bolted up you should have to pull the converter up to the flywheel...if there is no slack you got issues............
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Post  bb429power on September 4th 2011, 6:26 pm

Mike you got a pm...

I felt it go in farther 3 different times as I spun it, I think it popped out a little sometime between the ground, and lifting it over the frame and bolting it to the engine. The converter didn't seem to slide towards the engine when I tightened it, it wanted to pull the flaxplate toward itself. I'll find out soon enough...
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Post  whitefield on September 4th 2011, 7:54 pm

[quote="richter69"]after the trans is bolted up you should have to pull the converter up to the flywheel...if there is no slack you got issues............ [/quote

X2 A good rule of thumb is 1/8 to 1/16 flywheel to converter clearance after all bell housing bolts are in and tight.
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Post  jbozzelle on September 4th 2011, 9:59 pm

bb429power wrote:................it wanted to pull the flaxplate toward itself....



This tells me that the convertr pilot is not engaging properly in the crankshaft. Maybe it fits, but the crank is not deep enough...

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Post  cool40 on September 5th 2011, 1:11 am

what konda converter? factory stock? i've had all kinds of issues with most converters.done some halfass shit before just to use a converter too. Laughing what flex plate too?
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Post  zbob on September 5th 2011, 11:54 am

justin as soon as i get to town, bank, and post office that converter is coming for you! lol, bobn

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Post  bb429power on September 5th 2011, 12:12 pm

jbozzelle wrote:
bb429power wrote:................it wanted to pull the flaxplate toward itself....



This tells me that the convertr pilot is not engaging properly in the crankshaft. Maybe it fits, but the crank is not deep enough...
That, and possibly that ring that the bolts go through is supposed to space the flexplate towards the converter more??? I think its more of a converter issue though...
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Post  bb429power on September 5th 2011, 12:14 pm

cool40 wrote:what konda converter? factory stock? i've had all kinds of issues with most converters.done some halfass shit before just to use a converter too. Laughing what flex plate too?
It was already on it. Its blue like Ford blue but looks new and has a sticker on it that says "Quality RPM Assurance" This is a SFI certified Scat flexplate
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Post  bb429power on September 5th 2011, 12:17 pm

zbob wrote:justin as soon as i get to town, bank, and post office that converter is coming for you! lol, bobn
Thank you so much man, I told Mike how much I appreciate this. Because I have like no cash, and I was really bummed out that I wasn't able to get a good converter and had to put the old one in it. And I like to do things the right way the first time Smile
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