Project Snake bite!!!!
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Project Snake bite!!!!
Ok as some of you know I'm a new member here... And in a learning process... Well I finally am starting the build. If you guys don't mind chime in on what you think is best for my combo. I call it project snake bite... (not idea why)
Alil about myself... I'm 22 years old... When I was 15 I found my dream car. 69 mustang fastback... Knocked on a door and asked if it was for sale.. It was. For $2500... So I worked my but off at a local garage and bought the car. Now it's time to upgrade the worn out 351w... And only thing that seems right is a BBF!!!!
Here's the car so far...it's street/strip
9" with 3.89 gears
C4 built with better bands etc (going to full manual reverse trans brake)
And of course the build!
It's a budget build... And I'm going to keep track of buying and selling to see how much I spend. So without further ado...
The bottom end.
Got myself a 486 stroker kit. $500 shipped to my door.
Offset ground crank 3.970 with 440 six pack rods and Ross flat top pistons.
Stroker kit $500
Block $50
Roller rocker FREE (well $40 i did a waterpump for a guy he hadthey laying around)
Total $590....
going to be either buying older standard valve cobra jets or used trick flows or find a set of really nice doves.
Alil about myself... I'm 22 years old... When I was 15 I found my dream car. 69 mustang fastback... Knocked on a door and asked if it was for sale.. It was. For $2500... So I worked my but off at a local garage and bought the car. Now it's time to upgrade the worn out 351w... And only thing that seems right is a BBF!!!!
Here's the car so far...it's street/strip
9" with 3.89 gears
C4 built with better bands etc (going to full manual reverse trans brake)
And of course the build!
It's a budget build... And I'm going to keep track of buying and selling to see how much I spend. So without further ado...
The bottom end.
Got myself a 486 stroker kit. $500 shipped to my door.
Offset ground crank 3.970 with 440 six pack rods and Ross flat top pistons.
Stroker kit $500
Block $50
Roller rocker FREE (well $40 i did a waterpump for a guy he hadthey laying around)
Total $590....
going to be either buying older standard valve cobra jets or used trick flows or find a set of really nice doves.
machwon169- Posts: 47
Join date: 2011-11-03
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Send the pistons out and get them renotched for the SCJ/P51 valve location, and call Lem and get a set of the SCJ's. Good bang for the buck, and very reasonable price too.
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schmitty- Moderator

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Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Dropping off block and rotating assembly Tomorow to get bored and checked out
machwon169- Posts: 47
Join date: 2011-11-03
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Rotating assembly is all dropped off and getting checked...
Selling the six pack rods and getting h beams.... (have buyer on rods)
Selling the six pack rods and getting h beams.... (have buyer on rods)
machwon169- Posts: 47
Join date: 2011-11-03
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
good choice

jesse- Posts: 449
Join date: 2009-03-18
Age: 32
Location: little falls, mn
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Just picked up gen 2 headers and mounts... add $400..
So far..
stroker kit $500
roller rockers $40
block $50
headers and mounts $400
Total $990...
So far..
stroker kit $500
roller rockers $40
block $50
headers and mounts $400
Total $990...
machwon169- Posts: 47
Join date: 2011-11-03
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
You are building yours like I did I bought my short block and trans for $300 then bought parts of guys on here a friend gave me a set of bare dove-c heads I have over a $1000 in my heads.So like was said if you don't have a good set of heads you will money ahead getting a set of alum scj that Lem sales and have alot more room to grow later on.
Jim
Jim

69F100- BBF CONTRIBUTOR

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Location: Irwinville Ga.
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Dont know if anyone is following over here... but got back from machice shop... crank checked out perfect 3.970.. pistons are .060 over and have some knurling... but other then that are ok...
Sold the 440 six pack rods for $230....
paid $70 to check the crank and pistons cc and compression height etc...
Brings the new total
$830.... not to bad so far..
buying a set of H beams here soon...
might also be picking up a set of DOVES that are ported for cheap... well see.. keep yall updated..
Sold the 440 six pack rods for $230....
paid $70 to check the crank and pistons cc and compression height etc...
Brings the new total
$830.... not to bad so far..
buying a set of H beams here soon...
might also be picking up a set of DOVES that are ported for cheap... well see.. keep yall updated..
machwon169- Posts: 47
Join date: 2011-11-03
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Picked up a set of DOVEs for $200...
Cut for dual springs, set up for 3/8 pushrods, ported good..
They ran 10.40 on a 466...12.1 compression with 580 cam..
Now it comes down to if I should get bigger valves installed? Is it worth the $600-$750 to install 2.20/1.76 valves....what do you guys think? There stock valves right now...
Cut for dual springs, set up for 3/8 pushrods, ported good..
They ran 10.40 on a 466...12.1 compression with 580 cam..
Now it comes down to if I should get bigger valves installed? Is it worth the $600-$750 to install 2.20/1.76 valves....what do you guys think? There stock valves right now...
machwon169- Posts: 47
Join date: 2011-11-03
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Get the SCJ heads...... You will be power aheads per $$ spent, unless you can do all the machine work, porting, flowing and get parts for cheap.

dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR

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Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
All I would need are valves.... And machince work said it would be $300-$400
machwon169- Posts: 47
Join date: 2011-11-03
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
+Springs, Retainers, Locks, Studs, Guide Plates......... Good Valve Jobs are $225+ cost of opening the throats for larger valves, Decent Valves if you put the larger ones are $200-$250 a set..... + porting if you can't do it yourself..... You be in them well over $1000, starting with bare casting and be down on power by 40-50hp compaired to the aluminum SCJ's
Last I checked the SCJ's where in the $1600-1700 range and complete for the $$$. Plus they are lighter and have much better chambers.
Last I checked the SCJ's where in the $1600-1700 range and complete for the $$$. Plus they are lighter and have much better chambers.

dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR

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Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
I'd agree with dfree383. Unless those heads come equipt with springs, ect. compatable for your cam selection it will all have to be replaced. I know when you are doing a project like this you see a fat price tag for 1 item on the list and you
but heads make or break the whole deal. If you get the SCJ's, you'll make much more power now and will have stout BBF heads capable of meeting any future needs. You get the ability to bolt them right on out of the box if you wish as they are complete. It could very well be the difference between a decent running BBF and one where people say "What the f___ did you do to that thing?!?"

4thHorseman- Posts: 233
Join date: 2009-08-13
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Theses are set up with good springs and retainers... I think all I would need is valve... Maybe guides...
Plus throats.... Maybe I'll just run the stock size valve... Plus some more port work...I figure it I can stay under $650-$700 they will be a good bargain....
Plus throats.... Maybe I'll just run the stock size valve... Plus some more port work...I figure it I can stay under $650-$700 they will be a good bargain....
machwon169- Posts: 47
Join date: 2011-11-03
Re: Project Snake bite!!!!
Hmm... Maybe I'll just save up then....40-50more hp is nice... But at the same time 550-600hp is all I'm after... Back to drawing board...
machwon169- Posts: 47
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