Dry sumps and vacuum...
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I've read our engines/pumps do not like more than 7 to 10. Does all that fly out the window when running a dry sump system? And if so how much do they like? And also how much can a single stage of the pump pull?

138- Posts: 1584
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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...
Wet Sump engines don't like more then 10 psi of Vacume. Dry sump motors love as much Vacume as you can get . My Motor has 5 psi at idle and 20 psi at 5000 rpm's.
I have a 5 stage pump 3 in the pan one from the heads, on my motor along with a 3 vane Vacume pump. I like not having any leaks after a run.
Dan
I have a 5 stage pump 3 in the pan one from the heads, on my motor along with a 3 vane Vacume pump. I like not having any leaks after a run.
Dan

TRUKPULR- Posts: 200
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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...
Where is the moroso pulling vac from?

138- Posts: 1584
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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...
It pulls off the valve cover .

TRUKPULR- Posts: 200
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138 wrote: Where is the moroso pulling vac from?
Most are in the valve cover...I'd vote for putting it in the floor of the intake manifold on a bbf.
Lem Evans- Posts: 4073
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Lem Evans wrote:138 wrote: Where is the moroso pulling vac from?
Most are in the valve cover...I'd vote for putting it in the floor of the intake manifold on a bbf.
That is what I thought too...until I tried it. I tried 2 different locations in the valley of my TFS tunnel ram (A head) and got way too much oil sucked in to the vacuum system. I even tried making a nifty little oil separator device to make the valley location work. No dice on it either.
I also got too much (vented oil right at the end of a dyno pull) when tapped in to a Star baffle in one cover. I split the "intake" for my vacuum system to pull from both valve covers then to a "T" fittting. Problem fixed...and worked flawlessly for 4 seasons.
I also use a Star vent tank.
I use a Moroso 4 vane Enhanced Design pump spinning at about 65% crank speed (as I recall). Fresh engine...17 inches during the run. Dry sump...
Keith

Wheelie58- Posts: 882
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Location: Alpharetta, GA

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" I even tried making a nifty little oil separator device to make the valley location work."
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Did you build a baffle and attach it to the underside of the manifold?
Lem Evans- Posts: 4073
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Location: Livermore , Ky

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We pull from the floor of my t ram (two Places) with the Peterson Wet/Vac pump and have no issues. 5-10 inches of vacuum.

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You got a picture of that?
Lem Evans- Posts: 4073
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Lem Evans wrote:You got a picture of that?
No, but I have a picture of nothing.


Curt- Posts: 1680
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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...
Thanks for "nothing"
Lem Evans- Posts: 4073
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Location: Livermore , Ky

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Lem Evans wrote:You got a picture of that?
Nevermind...I found it.

Lem Evans- Posts: 4073
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Lem Evans wrote:You got a picture of that?
It took me a while to find one of them. My Desktop Computer is in the shop being fixed, hard to find stuff on the backup hard drive.


Doug Rahn- BBF CONTRIBUTOR

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Who came up with that dumb idea?
Lem Evans- Posts: 4073
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That sure beats nothing!

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