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Post  138 on November 21st 2011, 8:48 pm

I've read our engines/pumps do not like more than 7 to 10. Does all that fly out the window when running a dry sump system? And if so how much do they like? And also how much can a single stage of the pump pull?

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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...

Post  TRUKPULR on November 21st 2011, 10:17 pm

Wet Sump engines don't like more then 10 psi of Vacume. Dry sump motors love as much Vacume as you can get . My Motor has 5 psi at idle and 20 psi at 5000 rpm's.

I have a 5 stage pump 3 in the pan one from the heads, on my motor along with a 3 vane Vacume pump. I like not having any leaks after a run.




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Post  138 on November 21st 2011, 10:50 pm

Where is the moroso pulling vac from?

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Post  TRUKPULR on November 22nd 2011, 8:12 am

It pulls off the valve cover .

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Post  Lem Evans on November 22nd 2011, 8:01 pm

138 wrote: Where is the moroso pulling vac from?


Most are in the valve cover...I'd vote for putting it in the floor of the intake manifold on a bbf.

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Post  Wheelie58 on November 22nd 2011, 11:02 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
138 wrote: Where is the moroso pulling vac from?


Most are in the valve cover...I'd vote for putting it in the floor of the intake manifold on a bbf.


That is what I thought too...until I tried it. I tried 2 different locations in the valley of my TFS tunnel ram (A head) and got way too much oil sucked in to the vacuum system. I even tried making a nifty little oil separator device to make the valley location work. No dice on it either.
I also got too much (vented oil right at the end of a dyno pull) when tapped in to a Star baffle in one cover. I split the "intake" for my vacuum system to pull from both valve covers then to a "T" fittting. Problem fixed...and worked flawlessly for 4 seasons.
I also use a Star vent tank.
I use a Moroso 4 vane Enhanced Design pump spinning at about 65% crank speed (as I recall). Fresh engine...17 inches during the run. Dry sump...
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Post  Lem Evans on November 23rd 2011, 9:52 am


" I even tried making a nifty little oil separator device to make the valley location work."
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Did you build a baffle and attach it to the underside of the manifold?


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Post  Doug Rahn on November 23rd 2011, 4:14 pm

We pull from the floor of my t ram (two Places) with the Peterson Wet/Vac pump and have no issues. 5-10 inches of vacuum.

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Post  Lem Evans on November 23rd 2011, 5:07 pm

You got a picture of that?

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Post  Curt on November 23rd 2011, 5:40 pm

Lem Evans wrote:You got a picture of that?


No, but I have a picture of nothing.


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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...

Post  Lem Evans on November 23rd 2011, 6:18 pm

Thanks for "nothing" lol!

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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...

Post  Lem Evans on November 23rd 2011, 6:24 pm

Lem Evans wrote:You got a picture of that?


Nevermind...I found it.



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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...

Post  Doug Rahn on November 23rd 2011, 6:36 pm

Lem Evans wrote:You got a picture of that?


It took me a while to find one of them. My Desktop Computer is in the shop being fixed, hard to find stuff on the backup hard drive.


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Re: Dry sumps and vacuum...

Post  Lem Evans on November 23rd 2011, 6:46 pm

Who came up with that dumb idea? Laughing

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Post  Curt on November 23rd 2011, 6:53 pm

That sure beats nothing! cheers

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