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Post  Curt on November 22nd 2012, 5:10 pm

bruno wrote:cant wait till the fairy tail is fired up !!!! cheers

She has a tail?

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Post  bbf-falcon on November 22nd 2012, 9:25 pm

Best lookin 466 I've seen for awhile Smile Good luck Dave,can't wait to see the Dyno sheet.

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Post  Lem Evans on December 18th 2012, 9:37 pm

I heard that thing run today.

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Post  dfree383 on December 18th 2012, 9:51 pm

So far, 777hp @ 7300 and 629 ft/lb @ 5800
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Post  richter69 on December 18th 2012, 9:55 pm

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Post  dfree383 on December 19th 2012, 12:17 am

Here's where Phillip Oakley has it at right now.
TQ HP
5000 607.00 578.00
5100 613.00 595.00
5200 615.00 609.00
5300 614.00 620.00
5400 615.00 632.00
5500 617.00 646.00
5600 620.00 661.00
5700 625.00 679.00
5800 629.00 694.00
5900 628.00 705.00
6000 626.00 716.00
6100 623.00 723.00
6200 617.00 729.00
6300 611.00 732.00
6400 604.00 736.00
6500 597.00 738.00
6600 591.00 743.00
6700 596.00 748.00
6800 583.00 755.00
6900 580.00 762.00
7000 577.00 769.00
7100 572.00 776.00
7200 564.00 777.00
7300 559.00 777.00
7400 548.00 773.00
7500 536.00 765.00

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Post  jasonf on December 19th 2012, 3:45 am

Barney wrote:650-700ish I'm stupid though.

dfree383 wrote:My Guess is 835.

Almost exactly in the middle of your two posts (10 hspr closer to Daves guestimate).
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Post  dfree383 on December 19th 2012, 5:18 am

It's got a few left in it, guessing another 15 hp for some race headers (the 2" ones are too long and have crappy collectors) and a few more on that for an evac system.

It should be closer to 800 in the car.
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Post  IDT-572 on December 19th 2012, 10:29 am

Give us the details on the engine Dave.
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Post  dfree383 on December 19th 2012, 10:53 am

.030 over D1VE Block
10/10 Factory Crank by Adney
Scat 6.605 Hbeams
Arias Domed Pistons with a 1/16 Ring Pack. little over 14:1
Solid Roller upper 270 @ .050 on the intake, mid-upper 280's on the exhaust, .800 lift on a 108 by Scott Main at Cam Research

Set of Freebie Eddy RPM's (you know the story about the car they came off of Rolling Eyes) I ported them added 2.25 / 1.76 Ford Racing SS valves, Erson Springs, TI Ret, Comp 1.73 Rockers. Got them to blow about 390 @ .800

It has the TR Intake I've been building for the last year and a half with a pair of recycled 8896 1050 dominators and a few old Quick fuel parts added in.

The oil pan is one of Lems Custom Charlies dragster pans with a Kaase Pump

Its got a Ford Racing timing chain, ATI damper and an old mallory small cap crank trigger distributor with the balance of parts from MSD.

Not a whole lot else to it.... its a pretty basic simple bracket motor.

This is pretty similar to the "Cheap Skate" engine, Just it has a proper Camshaft, a point more compression and the TR.

Its cool seeing it hold on well past 6700, where the Victor manifolds seem to stall at, I was expecting a peak a few hundred rpm more, but I cam probably get that moving the cam around a few degrees.

Phillip is going to try running the headers for the dragster on it and we figure that will be worth another 15 or so peak HP and add the Evac system, I'm hoping to get 790-800 out of her.


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Post  IDT-572 on December 19th 2012, 10:55 am

I'm sure it will.............. good build Cool
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Post  Lem Evans on December 19th 2012, 11:10 am

I figured it was a 108* cam..it sure was noisey at idle. If you want it to run higher rpm the bigger/shorter headers and a 110* lsa cam should help in that regard.

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Post  dfree383 on December 19th 2012, 11:29 am

Well look at changing the cam out when I swap this engine out for the 598. I want to run this one in my mustang after I get used to driving the dragster.
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Post  Lem Evans on December 19th 2012, 12:01 pm

It may run better with the cam that's in it....being that you may swap tq. for hp. Also, you may not wanna have to turn it 8,000 rpm to run as fast as you can.

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Post  dfree383 on December 19th 2012, 12:03 pm

That's true , we'll get some data off of it in the dragster and decide if its worth changing anything when the time comes.
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Post  IDT-572 on December 19th 2012, 1:51 pm

You guys are way off base............... The dyno number is what it is all about Twisted Evil

Pull it out to a 112 and post that 8000 rpm peak. Shocked
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Post  dfree383 on December 19th 2012, 1:56 pm

IDT-572 wrote:You guys are way off base............... The dyno number is what it is all about Twisted Evil

Pull it out to a 112 and post that 8000 rpm peak. Shocked

lol! lol! lol!
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Post  richter69 on December 19th 2012, 2:53 pm

Id rather have the ET slip.............. cheers
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Post  IDT-572 on December 19th 2012, 3:50 pm

richter69 wrote:Id rather have the ET slip.............. cheers

Yours are forgery's Razz Razz
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Post  richter69 on December 19th 2012, 4:09 pm

I'll send you a couple so you can frame them and hang on your wall............. Wink
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Post  Lem Evans on December 19th 2012, 5:23 pm

What are the carb. spacers like..........open?

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Post  dfree383 on December 19th 2012, 10:50 pm

It just has 2 ea plastic 1/2" strait 4 hole spacers
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Post  BUZZ BUZZARD on December 20th 2012, 10:03 am

I like the manifold, what did it start out as? I have an old weiand tr on the shelf that I thought of doing that to but it is the small port. Don't know how it would work on my tfs streets that are ported to cj size.

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Post  dfree383 on December 20th 2012, 10:11 am

Started as an old weiand I got off Wes Littrel. The small ones can be ported out to match.

My advice, if your not into doing a super long duration intake job, don't try it. It involves a whole lot of grinding, machining and welding.

I have a serious amount of time and money in this damn thing. To be honest if I had figured on the the total earlier, it would have made finding a used or buying a new sheet metal intake very attractive.
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Post  BUZZ BUZZARD on December 20th 2012, 3:59 pm

I used to run that old thing on 429 with eddy heads with a large plenum box on top with a toilet mounted sidways.

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