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Post  jesse on January 11th 2012, 4:34 am

well everything is gone truck and motor
but not my love for bbf's
so i have decided to do a motor for my
97 f350
i found a earily 90's 460 efi motor i am gonna do for it
nothing wrong with the current 460 in my truck but i wanna get a motor done and swap it
in on a weekend project
my thoughts are
stroker kit 4.500 with a 30 or 60 bore
i was thinking 30 over just to be safe and i wanna get 100,000 miles out of it
i am gonna keep the heads stock might do some clean up on the ports
do a valve job get a smaller torqy cam and lifter set
gonna keep the stock efi set up and chip it if they make a ok chip for my truck?
tranny is gonna get rebuilt soon
i drive this almost everyday and use it pull my new ice castle fish house/toy hauler
and i wanna keep fair mpg i think i get about 10 now
any thought and or ideas?
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Post  dfree383 on January 11th 2012, 6:36 am

4.300 with a 6.800 rod, it your looking for some long term durability IMO.
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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on January 11th 2012, 7:24 am

You doing, the same thing I am looking at later on with my 95 f350. Just like Dave said the 4.3/6.8 rod would be awsome. I figured a nice little 521 ought to yank some things around....... like this here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOHvkZXnknk
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Post  meandad on January 11th 2012, 10:40 am

sounds like you want a DIESEL Suspect clown

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Post  jbozzelle on January 11th 2012, 11:38 am

Look at the truck engine build Lem posted in the Engine Build section. Is your truck mass air or speed density? Both can work with aftermarket stuff, but I think the mass air stuff is easier to hop up. I may be wrong though.

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Post  res0rli9 on January 11th 2012, 1:01 pm

[quote="jbozzelle"]Look at the truck engine build Lem posted in the Engine Build section. Is your truck mass air or speed density? Both can work with aftermarket stuff, but I think the mass air stuff is easier to hop up. I may be wrong though. [/quote][b]

Yes, Lem do you have an update on that engine, hows it run, and what kinda gas milage Smile Cool


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Post  rmcomprandy on January 11th 2012, 1:46 pm

jesse wrote:well everything is gone truck and motor
but not my love for bbf's
so i have decided to do a motor for my
97 f350
i found a earily 90's 460 efi motor i am gonna do for it
nothing wrong with the current 460 in my truck but i wanna get a motor done and swap it
in on a weekend project
my thoughts are
stroker kit 4.500 with a 30 or 60 bore
i was thinking 30 over just to be safe and i wanna get 100,000 miles out of it
i am gonna keep the heads stock might do some clean up on the ports
do a valve job get a smaller torqy cam and lifter set
gonna keep the stock efi set up and chip it if they make a ok chip for my truck?
tranny is gonna get rebuilt soon
i drive this almost everyday and use it pull my new ice castle fish house/toy hauler
and i wanna keep fair mpg i think i get about 10 now
any thought and or ideas?

It doesn't matter what you do or the kind of "chip" you use, a production hardware F.I. system will be good for 390 lb/ft of maximum torque output and you won't get any more, no matter how big you make the engine.

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Post  jesse on January 11th 2012, 1:53 pm

would a carb set up be a better option?
or upgrade the efi? i dont wanna dump a ton of cash into this
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Post  rmcomprandy on January 11th 2012, 2:20 pm

jesse wrote:would a carb set up be a better option?
or upgrade the efi? i dont wanna dump a ton of cash into this

It's all about money ... "bang for the buck" - YES.

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Post  jbozzelle on January 11th 2012, 2:27 pm

Randy, You mean the factory intake and throttle body just won't move the air needed?

I wonder if you could use a Torker, RPM or Stealth with injector bungs and a big throttle body with a factory Mass Air ECM? Would also have to see if the heads match up to the intake too.

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Post  jesse on January 11th 2012, 2:45 pm

would a 6.7 rod be a better choice to keep the rings above the pin?
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Post  dfree383 on January 11th 2012, 2:53 pm

I've never noticed an issue..... But I've never built one to go for 100k either.
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Post  rmcomprandy on January 11th 2012, 3:47 pm

jbozzelle wrote:Randy, You mean the factory intake and throttle body just won't move the air needed?

I wonder if you could use a Torker, RPM or Stealth with injector bungs and a big throttle body with a factory Mass Air ECM? Would also have to see if the heads match up to the intake too.

NO ... I'm talking about the ENTIRE system. The injectors, fuel pump, the regulator, the ECM along with the air flow restrictions. (read production OEM hardware factory F.I.).
Ford did a good job of sizing everything to what it is supposed to be.

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Post  jbozzelle on January 11th 2012, 4:36 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:
jbozzelle wrote:Randy, You mean the factory intake and throttle body just won't move the air needed?

I wonder if you could use a Torker, RPM or Stealth with injector bungs and a big throttle body with a factory Mass Air ECM? Would also have to see if the heads match up to the intake too.

NO ... I'm talking about the ENTIRE system. The injectors, fuel pump, the regulator, the ECM along with the air flow restrictions. (read production OEM hardware factory F.I.).
Ford did a good job of sizing everything to what it is supposed to be.

OK. I gotcha.

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Post  jesse on January 12th 2012, 4:28 am

maybe a better option is to rebuild it
save the money i would have spent on a stroker deal and stick some cash into
fuel system upgrades and head and intake work?
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Post  dfree383 on January 12th 2012, 9:59 am

If the bottom end only needs Rings and Bearings thats probably a great way to go for the $$.

IMO induction and Exhaust are where you will also get a big return on the $$ Spent.
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Post  rmcomprandy on January 12th 2012, 11:17 am

jesse wrote:maybe a better option is to rebuild it
save the money i would have spent on a stroker deal and stick some cash into
fuel system upgrades and head and intake work?

"BETTER" is a personal choice; whatever YOU think will get it closer the the end result you're looking to get.

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Post  Lem Evans on January 19th 2012, 7:04 am

res0rli9 wrote:[quote="jbozzelle"]Look at the truck engine build Lem posted in the Engine Build section. Is your truck mass air or speed density? Both can work with aftermarket stuff, but I think the mass air stuff is easier to hop up. I may be wrong though.
[b]

Yes, Lem do you have an update on that engine, hows it run, and what kinda gas milage Smile Cool [/quote]

I talked to the owner yesterday...he's real happy with it. 9-12 mpg he said. He also said it runs nice and cool...stock radiator and FRPP aluminium water pump.

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Post  res0rli9 on January 21st 2012, 12:58 am

Lem Evans wrote:
res0rli9 wrote:[quote="jbozzelle"]Look at the truck engine build Lem posted in the Engine Build section. Is your truck mass air or speed density? Both can work with aftermarket stuff, but I think the mass air stuff is easier to hop up. I may be wrong though.
[b]

Yes, Lem do you have an update on that engine, hows it run, and what kinda gas milage Smile Cool

I talked to the owner yesterday...he's real happy with it. 9-12 mpg he said. He also said it runs nice and cool...stock radiator and FRPP aluminium water pump. [/quote]

Thanks Lem for the update, 9-12 mpg is the same as my 466 in 76 150 crue cab got with 3:25 rear. so Id say thats good mil.

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