Re: header paint

bbf-falcon on February 3rd 2012, 6:51 pm

richter69 wrote:I hear the Snake uses the invisible kind.................

I heard that rumor also Razz

69F100 on February 3rd 2012, 6:57 pm

I used Cast Iron stove paint the 2nd time, the first time I use the VHT they have 2 different kinds 1 you have to bake on and the other 1 you do not have to bake I used the one you do not bake on it is higher the the bake on.But it will scrath off very easy I have had my headers off a few times and need to be cleaned and repainted now.which will happen here in a few months when i have the engine out for the frontend swap.I may have to build another set when that happens and they will painyed to with stove paint.

ragtime on February 3rd 2012, 7:40 pm

samiam wrote:http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s478/sam1amiam/IMG_3757.jpg

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s478/sam1amiam/IMG_3758.jpg

one a these days I will figure how to post real pics,,,,,,,,, this was VHT coating, and it does very good IF you bake it on,,, my makeshift oven was good for 500 deg,and I baked them 4 times, , one full season on the headers now and still look new...............

red neck header shack................i mean that in a good way Very Happy

thats great man, love it!!!!!!!

ragtime on February 3rd 2012, 7:43 pm

[quote="69bluehotrod"]http://xtremepowdercoating.com/index.htm is who I just had do our headers, I know its a bit more $ but the quality is very nice, & the fact that it will make the headers last longer is money in the bank.
here is a before & after

before:

after:

took about a week, & cost $280.00 total. xtremepowdercoating.com @ 972-352-5230

show off................ tongue

great work, very nice!!!!!

HELI-ARC on February 3rd 2012, 9:40 pm

The headers shown above appear to be ceramic coated. But as you go to there website they only do powder coating.
Most powders cure at 350 to 500 degrees, but will burn off at lower temps than there cure temp. So is this what it appears or something new?

69bluehotrod on February 3rd 2012, 11:15 pm

HELI-ARC wrote:The headers shown above appear to be ceramic coated. But as you go to there website they only do powder coating.
Most powders cure at 350 to 500 degrees, but will burn off at lower temps than there cure temp. So is this what it appears or something new?

yes, but call them, ask for Derick, he will take care of you personally on ceramic coatings...

Mark Miller on February 4th 2012, 12:15 am

342g wrote:Someone mentioned some they bought at Advance auto that worked great, I don't remember the name, I hope they get back on this thread, because I'M going to need some also.

I think that was Travis Rice that mentioned that paint i'm pretty sure the name of it was DEI.

Later Mark.

bigblok2000ranger on February 4th 2012, 1:14 am

I used the VHT from Advance Auto Parts that said nothing about baking the paint on and sandblasted mine then cleaned with brake parts cleaner and handled them with Nitrile gloves to avoid contaminating them from oils on my hands. I used 7 cans and painted mine inside and out and was not happy at all after running the engine.

Some powdercoating places have extreme temp powders that can more than handle the heat from headers but it is very expensive to buy because they buy in bulk so unless they have other jobs that need to use it most will not purchase it for one job unless you want to foot the bill and if memory serves me correctly it was $2-3000 for a 55 gallon drum.

nuclearcobra on February 4th 2012, 7:57 am

Did you use the vht high heat engine paint ? that dosen't say to bake them but the vht header paint does unless the newer cans say diffrent. I tried the plasti-kote header paint and it says for 1500 degrees and it worked good plus it said you can cure it by starting the engine unlike vht which they say to cure in an oven at diffrent temps. I might give tech line coatings a try techlinecoatings.com they say it cures by air drying and good for up to 2000 degrees. Look it on youtube as well.

HELI-ARC on February 4th 2012, 8:59 am

Thanks Blue... I will give them a call, as it seems like the number you posted is much more in line then anyone else I have spoke to.

fc2444 on February 4th 2012, 9:06 am

We are in east Tennessee, price depends on size and shape. We do headers for a lot of powder coaters, but not these guys.

bigblok2000ranger on February 4th 2012, 2:21 pm

nuclearcobra wrote:Did you use the vht high heat engine paint ? that dosen't say to bake them but the vht header paint does unless the newer cans say diffrent. I tried the plasti-kote header paint and it says for 1500 degrees and it worked good plus it said you can cure it by starting the engine unlike vht which they say to cure in an oven at diffrent temps. I might give tech line coatings a try techlinecoatings.com they say it cures by air drying and good for up to 2000 degrees. Look it on youtube as well.

It was specifically headers paint and read the directions 3 or 4 times and never said anything about baking them.

My next set will be ceramic coated there is a shop 30 minutes from here that will do them for $280, lesson learned about the paint for me.

Mark Miller on February 5th 2012, 1:08 am

The VHT Paint i use is Very High Temperature Flame Proof Header Paint Silica-Ceramic Coating 1,300-2,000 degree.On the back of the can it says to either Bake it on and also has on car Baking suggestions.On car run it for 10 minutes let cool for 20 minutes,run for 20 minutes let cool for 20 minutes,run for 30 minutes then let cool.I got the paint i use from Summit Racing for $9.25 a can IMO i think it holds up pretty well as my car sits outside under a cover all year long.

Later Mark

nuclearcobra on February 5th 2012, 8:26 pm

Thats what i used the flame proof vht it lasted a long time but on the first nitrous run it turned it to dust.

jasonf on February 5th 2012, 8:46 pm

69bluehotrod wrote:http://xtremepowdercoating.com/index.htm is who I just had do our headers, I know its a bit more $ but the quality is very nice, & the fact that it will make the headers last longer is money in the bank.
here is a before & after

took about a week, & cost $280.00 total. xtremepowdercoating.com @ 972-352-5230
hope this helps.

Those look way nicer then my nitro coat nightmare.