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Re: Comp lifters

Post  soupbean on August 4th 2012, 11:57 pm

powerstrokeace wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
QtrWarrior wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:I suspect there are 17,000 pieces of needles inside the engine.

X2

Ground to a powder in the bottom of the pan.

Most likely in the oil filter. Wink

Only if it a JOMAR........


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It's a JOMAR
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Post  soupbean on August 4th 2012, 11:58 pm

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soupbean wrote:Think that "green oil" would prevent this? Very Happy
no,but it damn sure wont hurt. Very Happy

17,000 1/4 mile passes at least with pro comp lifters and green oil. Idea

Lem is 17,000 your favorite number tonight? Laughing
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Post  powerstrokeace on August 5th 2012, 12:02 am

soupbean wrote:Lem, I hope you are right (And I need parts by the way, call you Monday), the guy I bought the engine from seems like a truely good guy. The problem was when I bought the engine from him, I pulled the pan and there was a needle bearing on the pick up. He had an issue with some previous roller rockers that spit out needle bearings, had Jet Boat Bob go through it and freshen. He said it must have been a bearing that wasn't caught in the clean up hidden some where which made sense but when this happened I became very suspcious. But if you are telling me that all those needle bearings can be chewed up into small particles, that makes me feel much better and feel bad about my assumptions.

I'm not Bashing any body. This could happen to any one! You said the motor was gone though by Jet boat Bob. OK did you put NEW lifters in it? At this point its not the seller fault. Even at that I had a brand new set of Lunati's in the motor ( got with the dragster I bought) i freshened up this winter and in 19 passes one failed.

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Re: Comp lifters

Post  cool40 on August 5th 2012, 12:06 am

any of them can fail and some more than others.....
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Post  soupbean on August 5th 2012, 12:10 am

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soupbean wrote:Lem, I hope you are right (And I need parts by the way, call you Monday), the guy I bought the engine from seems like a truely good guy. The problem was when I bought the engine from him, I pulled the pan and there was a needle bearing on the pick up. He had an issue with some previous roller rockers that spit out needle bearings, had Jet Boat Bob go through it and freshen. He said it must have been a bearing that wasn't caught in the clean up hidden some where which made sense but when this happened I became very suspcious. But if you are telling me that all those needle bearings can be chewed up into small particles, that makes me feel much better and feel bad about my assumptions.

I'm not Bashing any body. This could happen to any one! You said the motor was gone though by Jet boat Bob. OK did you put NEW lifters in it? At this point its not the seller fault. Even at that I had a brand new set of Lunati's in the motor ( got with the dragster I bought) i freshened up this winter and in 19 passes one failed.

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Calm down Cledus, it's all good. The seller had JBB go through it and no I don't think the lifters were replaced. I had an assumption that there was some funny stuff going on because I never would have thought the needle bearings would grind up and disappear like they did but now that I know that is a possibility I know that IS what happened. The seller is an honest guy. Moving on from that part of this topic. Now back to bashing Comp lifters Laughing
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Post  powerstrokeace on August 5th 2012, 12:36 am

OK if its about Comp then I too had 2 of theirs fail as well. Caught the first one in time but the 2nd one was destruction....


And DONT CALL ME CLEDUS

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Post  soupbean on August 5th 2012, 12:57 am

powerstrokeace wrote:OK if its about Comp then I too had 2 of theirs fail as well. Caught the first one in time but the 2nd one was destruction....


And DONT CALL ME CLEDUS

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Post  Mark Laczo on August 5th 2012, 2:37 am

Lem Evans wrote:I suspect there are 17,000 pieces of needles inside the engine.
Really I think there are only 16,500 but I am an not an expert LOL.

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Post  Mark Laczo on August 5th 2012, 2:43 am

powerstrokeace wrote:OK if its about Comp then I too had 2 of theirs fail as well. Caught the first one in time but the 2nd one was destruction....


And DONT CALL ME CLEDUS

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Why not ? Don't be so sensitive ? Its better than CL....TUS ? LOL.

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Post  rmcomprandy on August 5th 2012, 10:56 am

FIRST ... be SURE those lifters came from CompCams.
Did you see them come out of an unopened CompCams box...?
A lot of Chinese copies have infiltrated the marketplace and the CompCams endurex lifter is the one they copied.

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Post  richter69 on August 5th 2012, 11:19 am

run time was more of a factor here than brand.........
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Post  Lem Evans on August 5th 2012, 11:58 am

richter69 wrote:run time was more of a factor here than brand.........

The engine was dyno'ed 11-30-2007.

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Re: Comp lifters

Post  richter69 on August 5th 2012, 2:57 pm

^^^^^^^ end of conversation...........
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Post  cool40 on August 5th 2012, 8:20 pm

richter69 wrote:^^^^^^^ end of conversation...........
if it was Nick's it'd only have a few runs on it tho! Razz Razz
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Re: Comp lifters

Post  soupbean on August 5th 2012, 9:49 pm

I would take the "shady people" part off of this thread if I could. I just want to say to everyone that views this thread, I ASSUMED something that was not true. I called the seller today to appologize for those assumptions. The seller is a stand up guy and I should have done more research before posting this thread. Live and learn. Now, stay tuned for the next build Twisted Evil
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Post  soupbean on August 5th 2012, 9:51 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:run time was more of a factor here than brand.........

The engine was dyno'ed 11-30-2007.

Yes Lem, I'm not sure how many passes the seller put on the engine but I put about 100 on it this year already.
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Post  richter69 on August 5th 2012, 10:41 pm

my current lifters have fewer runs on them than the bearings lol.

pm Nick Im sure he would be happy to edit the title for you and those involved.....
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Post  soupbean on August 5th 2012, 10:51 pm

richter69 wrote:my current lifters have fewer runs on them than the bearings lol.

pm Nick Im sure he would be happy to edit the title for you and those involved.....

Good idear
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Post  bosshoss on August 6th 2012, 10:32 pm

Great. I just picked up my new set of comp cams elite series lifters this morning. Getting ready to replace my Crowers this winter. You guys have me worried now affraid

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Post  richter69 on August 6th 2012, 10:37 pm

^^^^^^^ dont run um 5 years, go like 4 1/2....... should be fine........ Wink
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Post  IDT-572 on August 6th 2012, 10:41 pm

bosshoss wrote:Great. I just picked up my new set of comp cams elite series lifters this morning. Getting ready to replace my Crowers this winter. You guys have me worried now affraid

dkp

Keep an eye on everything and you will be fine. There is always a reason lifters fail. All brands.

It is all about the right springs, push rods, retainers, ect. Its amazing how well lifters hold up when they are matched wit the right components, and a good maintenance program is executed. Wink
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Post  soupbean on August 6th 2012, 10:43 pm

richter69 wrote:^^^^^^^ dont run um 5 years, go like 4 1/2....... should be fine........ Wink

For informational purposes, the seller said he put roughy 100 passes on the engine and I put roughly 100 passes on the engine this year. 200 passes plus dyno time in those 5 years.
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Post  soupbean on August 6th 2012, 10:48 pm

IDT-572 wrote:
bosshoss wrote:Great. I just picked up my new set of comp cams elite series lifters this morning. Getting ready to replace my Crowers this winter. You guys have me worried now affraid

dkp

Keep an eye on everything and you will be fine. There is always a reason lifters fail. All brands.

It is all about the right springs, push rods, retainers, ect. Its amazing how well lifters hold up when they are matched wit the right components, and a good maintenance program is executed. Wink

I agree. I change the oil and run the valves every three races. I did this the weekend before last and found #1 exhaust bad loose. I should have popped the intake off then but instead tightened it up. It finished letting go the next pass and lost my block for being ignorant. Live and learn.
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Post  Lem Evans on August 6th 2012, 11:24 pm

bosshoss wrote:Great. I just picked up my new set of comp cams elite series lifters this morning. Getting ready to replace my Crowers this winter. You guys have me worried now affraid

dkp

The Elite Comp lifter is a different animal.

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Post  cool40 on August 6th 2012, 11:44 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
bosshoss wrote:Great. I just picked up my new set of comp cams elite series lifters this morning. Getting ready to replace my Crowers this winter. You guys have me worried now affraid

dkp

The Elite Comp lifter is a different animal.
is that kinda like having only one valve cover? Laughing
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