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Post  madman on December 31st 2012, 12:39 am

1984 Ford 460 engine ,whats a good engine oil pan and windage tray stock size crankshaft to buy ? Hows rock auto for stuff Guys? Thanx Mike

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Post  dfree383 on December 31st 2012, 12:40 am

what is it in? Rock auto is to expensive for performance stuff and the vast majority of the empolyees are clueless, your better of buying from vendors here or places like Summit or Jegs.
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Post  bbf-falcon on December 31st 2012, 5:14 pm

dfree383 wrote:what is it in? Rock auto is to expensive for performance stuff and the vast majority of the empolyees are clueless, your better of buying from vendors here or places like Summit or Jegs.

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Post  Lem Evans on December 31st 2012, 7:31 pm

The Canton 20-936 fits most pans and has a decent price point.....you will need a mounting kit also.

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Thanx But?

Post  madman on January 1st 2013, 10:28 am

Does the windage tray need to be adjusted to each application (probably most semse?) or is there a oil pan I can buy with a windage tray already welded or bolted in place? Thanx Mike (Happy New Year )

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Post  dfree383 on January 1st 2013, 10:39 am

Whats the application? Whats it going in?
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What it is going in.?

Post  madman on January 1st 2013, 10:58 am

Its a 1984 460 engine F250 pickup .

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Post  dfree383 on January 1st 2013, 11:47 am

http://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/oil-pans-individual/oil-pan-usage/off-road?keyword=460%20oil%20pan

Thier are a few decent pans available on the shelf, but none appear to have built in trays, but canton does offer a nice tray like Lem has already said.
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Post  Lem Evans on January 1st 2013, 6:05 pm

madman wrote:Does the windage tray need to be adjusted to each application (probably most semse?) or is there a oil pan I can buy with a windage tray already welded or bolted in place? Thanx Mike (Happy New Year )

The 20-936 does not require any "adjusting" untill you install one of the longer stroke crankshafts.
Go to the Canton site and take a peek at the tray if you wish.

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Post  bigblok2000ranger on January 1st 2013, 8:55 pm

Is this a performance application? If not the money may be better spent elsewhere.
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Post  466cj on January 1st 2013, 9:02 pm

bigblok2000ranger wrote:Is this a performance application? If not the money may be better spent elsewhere.

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If you are chugging along at 2,000 RPM you don't need a windage tray. If you are turning enough RPM to benefit from a windage tray MPG makes a good one for stoke stroke applications.

As for Rock auto the other problem with them is their multible warehouses. Buy three different parts and find out they come out of three different warehousing and they want to sock you with three shipping charges!

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Post  Lem Evans on January 1st 2013, 9:20 pm

If a guy was chugging along at 2000 rpm he'd be better off 'chugging' with a tray that was 1/2 the cost of the MPG unit Wink

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Post  Lem Evans on January 1st 2013, 9:22 pm

bigblok2000ranger wrote:Is this a performance application? If not the money may be better spent elsewhere.

He did not ask any of us if he needed one....seemed he just wanted to know what was available.

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Post  BOSS 429 on January 1st 2013, 9:41 pm

look at moroso pans with a screen
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Post  Lem Evans on January 1st 2013, 9:52 pm

BOSS 429 wrote:look at moroso pans with a screen
That's the best answer but, when I did that 503" deal for that '92 F350 the good pan hit all kinds of stuff when it
went into the truck. We ended up useing the Mor. 20612 pan that dfree pointed to BUT, being that the pan is 10-3/4" deep and the exh. system on that unit wrapped under the engine at some point, the pan and pickup had to be shortened.....a real pain in butt it was.

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Post  466cj on January 2nd 2013, 1:57 am

Lem Evans wrote:
bigblok2000ranger wrote:Is this a performance application? If not the money may be better spent elsewhere.

He did not ask any of us if he needed one....seemed he just wanted to know what was available.

You get what you pay for Lem.

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Article on Windage Trays and Mileage

Post  madman on January 2nd 2013, 6:32 am

I read on the Internet (???!!!??) that windage tray would help with power losses and mileage a bit. When you drive a F250 Truck with a 460 every bit helps... here gas is 1.23 a litre Sure adds up , Since truck is getting work figured might as well replace the old pan and (looks mighty rusty funny how a OIL pan rusts right out ) Thanx for the replies and help Guys what a great site .

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Post  dfree383 on January 2nd 2013, 7:18 am

If your replacing the pan anyway, get a better pan, pick-up and a tray it won't hurt.
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Post  466cj on January 2nd 2013, 4:02 pm

madman wrote:I read on the Internet (???!!!??) that windage tray would help with power losses and mileage a bit. When you drive a F250 Truck with a 460 every bit helps... here gas is 1.23 a litre Sure adds up , Since truck is getting work figured might as well replace the old pan and (looks mighty rusty funny how a OIL pan rusts right out ) Thanx for the replies and help Guys what a great site .

If you read it on the internet then it must be fact Wink Any gains usually are at higher RPM. Look at how many newer OEM engines use one. Given the CAFE numbers OEM's have to meet, if it improved fuel mileage you can be sure every engine would have it and they don't. Personally I think you are just wasting your money.

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Post  bbf-falcon on January 2nd 2013, 4:11 pm

My 03 Taurus w/dohc duratech engine has one.

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Post  maverick on January 2nd 2013, 4:23 pm

I think oil CONTROL is one of the most important issues to address, especially in a BBF, not just to help it make power or better MPG, but to help it LIVE.

And as I once heard an EXPERT engine builder say, "If you don't believe that a flying liquid will slow down a rotating assembly, try tossing a pail of water through a fan." Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post  Mark Miller on January 3rd 2013, 1:19 am

Does anyone know what or if any windage trays work with the Ford Fox 460 swap oil pans?

Thanks Mark.

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Post  dfree383 on January 3rd 2013, 1:47 am

Mark Miller wrote:Does anyone know what or if any windage trays work with the Ford Fox 460 swap oil pans?

Thanks Mark.

The Canton tray worked in the Cantom pan thats on the Project Cheapskate 466. from my experiance they will fit just about any pan. on strokers and A460 blocks you will need to modify / space the tray.
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Post  Mark Miller on January 3rd 2013, 2:06 am

Dave,

Thanks for the information i have a D1VE Block.

Later Mark.

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