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Post  hienergy557 on January 19th 2013, 8:07 pm

I'm looking at changing oil pans. I currently have a Kaase pump and it looks to be a front pump style.
The pan I want to change to is a rear pick up.
It looks like the pick up would attach to the side of the pump, not the top cover.
So my question is, if the top cover for the rear pick up is availiable separately?
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Post  dfree383 on January 19th 2013, 8:20 pm

I have never see parts available separate. Could you just fab a pick up to ft the pump you have?
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Post  hienergy557 on January 19th 2013, 8:24 pm

The pick up isn't the problem, the top cap on the pump is diffrent. That's the part I need.
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Post  dfree383 on January 19th 2013, 8:31 pm

You saying you missing the cover on the pump?

You may just want to get the rear sump pump and sell your front one. If I remember correctly the rear sump ones attach the pickup to the main housing not the cover.
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Post  hienergy557 on January 19th 2013, 8:40 pm

Not missing.
I have a front sump top cover. I want to get/buy a rear pick up top cover.
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Post  dfree383 on January 19th 2013, 8:41 pm

hienergy557 wrote:Not missing.
I have a front sump top cover. I want to get/buy a rear pick up top cover.
Cheers Colin

I believe the pumps are totally different. Not going to be able to just switch the cover.
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Post  Lem Evans on January 19th 2013, 8:43 pm

The front pump has two inlets...one is blocked off...just switch the block off plates and use the rear style inlet.

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Post  dfree383 on January 19th 2013, 8:52 pm

Ok I thought they where like the Melling pumps.
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Post  Lem Evans on January 19th 2013, 9:06 pm

dfree383 wrote:Ok I thought they where like the Melling pumps.

The pumps have the same housings.......the ones with a front sump end cap have a block off plate over the rear style inlet.

Don't drop one...you may have a sore toe.

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Post  hienergy557 on January 19th 2013, 9:10 pm

I believe I can machine a 12mm plate so that it still use's the dual inlet. Which will decrease the height of the pump, compared to pump with the front sump top plate.
I was just asking if such a plate was availiable.
I will post a picture when I'm done.
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Post  Lem Evans on January 19th 2013, 9:15 pm

hienergy557 wrote:I believe I can machine a 12mm plate so that it still use's the dual inlet. Which will decrease the height of the pump, compared to pump with the front sump top plate.
I was just asking if such a plate was availiable.
I will post a picture when I'm done.
Cheers Colin

So, the new pan will not like the ht. of the front sump pump?

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Post  hienergy557 on January 19th 2013, 9:23 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
hienergy557 wrote:I believe I can machine a 12mm plate so that it still use's the dual inlet. Which will decrease the height of the pump, compared to pump with the front sump top plate.
I was just asking if such a plate was availiable.
I will post a picture when I'm done.
Cheers Colin

So, the new pan will not like the ht. of the front sump pump?

Correct. The pan is not as high at the front.
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Post  Lem Evans on January 19th 2013, 9:29 pm

hienergy557 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
hienergy557 wrote:I believe I can machine a 12mm plate so that it still use's the dual inlet. Which will decrease the height of the pump, compared to pump with the front sump top plate.
I was just asking if such a plate was availiable.
I will post a picture when I'm done.
Cheers Colin

So, the new pan will not like the ht. of the front sump pump?

Correct. The pan is not as high at the front.

I hear you now.....that ft. sump pump is longer than a week in jail and I'm not sure w.t.f. it was ever make , being that a nice job can be done of rolling the pickup from a rear pump into a front sump application.

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Post  hienergy557 on January 19th 2013, 9:34 pm

Rolling the pick up tube from the front sump cover to the rear increases the height even more. I'm trying to gain as much height as possible.
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Post  rmcomprandy on January 19th 2013, 9:35 pm

Even with the correct cover for a rear sump pump, if the pan is not deeper in the front, the cover on the pump needs to be machined thinner in order to get enough oil pan clearance.

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Post  hienergy557 on January 19th 2013, 9:36 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
hienergy557 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
hienergy557 wrote:I believe I can machine a 12mm plate so that it still use's the dual inlet. Which will decrease the height of the pump, compared to pump with the front sump top plate.
I was just asking if such a plate was availiable.
I will post a picture when I'm done.
Cheers Colin

So, the new pan will not like the ht. of the front sump pump?

Correct. The pan is not as high at the front.

I hear you now.....that ft. sump pump is longer than a week in jail and I'm not sure w.t.f. it was ever make , being that a nice job can be done of rolling the pickup from a rear pump into a front sump application.

Oh I see, your saying that side inlet should have been used exclusively.
I agree.
Cheers Colin
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Post  Lem Evans on January 19th 2013, 9:39 pm

hienergy557 wrote:Rolling the pick up tube from the front sump cover to the rear increases the height even more. I'm trying to gain as much height as possible.

That aint what I said.

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Post  Lem Evans on January 19th 2013, 9:40 pm

hienergy557 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
hienergy557 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
hienergy557 wrote:I believe I can machine a 12mm plate so that it still use's the dual inlet. Which will decrease the height of the pump, compared to pump with the front sump top plate.
I was just asking if such a plate was availiable.
I will post a picture when I'm done.
Cheers Colin

So, the new pan will not like the ht. of the front sump pump?

Correct. The pan is not as high at the front.

I hear you now.....that ft. sump pump is longer than a week in jail and I'm not sure w.t.f. it was ever make , being that a nice job can be done of rolling the pickup from a rear pump into a front sump application.

Oh I see, your saying that side inlet should have been used exclusively.
I agree.
Cheers Colin

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Post  Lem Evans on January 19th 2013, 9:41 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:Even with the correct cover for a rear sump pump, if the pan is not deeper in the front, the cover on the pump needs to be machined thinner in order to get enough oil pan clearance.

I wonder how deep the pump pocket is.

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Post  hienergy557 on January 19th 2013, 11:48 pm

If you are asking me Lem, the front of the sump is @ 155mm which is 6.100".
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Post  bbf-falcon on January 20th 2013, 7:30 am

I used a frt sump Kaase pump and made the plate switch to the rear. Just had to make a little drop down 3/8" deep in the pan below the pump.

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Post  Lem Evans on January 20th 2013, 12:38 pm

hienergy557 wrote:If you are asking me Lem, the front of the sump is @ 155mm which is 6.100".

The Kaase rear sump pump is longer that 6.100"

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