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Post  whitefield on February 3rd 2013, 10:28 pm

Would this intake work with a high winding 468 14.5:1 Max ported Set of P-51 heads with a good rotating assembly and solid roller cam?
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Post  richter69 on February 3rd 2013, 10:57 pm

ewe bet it will
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Post  IDT-572 on February 3rd 2013, 10:59 pm

Out of the box yes, but find a used ported Victor and the Mafia may not be worth any more power on a small inch engine.

To get a small big block ford to make power above 7000 you will need to modify a cast manifold no matter what you buy.
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Post  61coon on February 3rd 2013, 11:02 pm

Lots of research,time and welding rod in modifying this intake......
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Post  whitefield on February 3rd 2013, 11:34 pm

I think I would like to try it! I haven't found anyone that has with all of my research ! I think it would be interesting to see what the diff would be between the Mafia intake and the vic. intake ported and un ported
on a small cubic inch big block 466 to 480 cid.


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Post  IDT-572 on February 3rd 2013, 11:40 pm

I have already done that, a Mafia intake is worth around 15 hp maybe more on a 560 to 580 inch engine with heads flowing over 400 cfm over a max ported Victor.

It is not worth much on a small inch deal even with good flowing heads, unless it was a super max effort deal. And may not help them, never tried that.

And I know super max effort is a open ended statement Mr Malick........... Laughing
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Post  61coon on February 3rd 2013, 11:44 pm

A little more rpms can be found to with modifying the intake like this. Was it like 400 more rpms or something Blake?
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Post  whitefield on February 3rd 2013, 11:50 pm

In the past year I have picked up some pretty good big block parts ! So I may try it heads may change and might up the compression .but it would still be a small cube big block !
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Post  rmcomprandy on February 4th 2013, 12:14 am

IDT-572 wrote:I have already done that, a Mafia intake is worth around 15 hp maybe more on a 560 to 580 inch engine with heads flowing over 400 cfm over a max ported Victor.

It is not worth much on a small inch deal even with good flowing heads, unless it was a super max effort deal. And may not help them, never tried that.

And I know super max effort is a open ended statement Mr Malik........... Laughing

I agree with you Blake.
I had a shortened end runner, welded intake on a high winding 429 CJ, (actually 438 cid), tuned on the dyno. Trying a "Mafia" intake, just cleaned-up, LOST a little power. The Victor DID have a LOT of work and time spent on it, lol.
If comparing BOTH "out of the box" I am sure the Trick Flow would have been the better piece at that high RPM level.

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Post  IDT-572 on February 4th 2013, 12:28 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:I have already done that, a Mafia intake is worth around 15 hp maybe more on a 560 to 580 inch engine with heads flowing over 400 cfm over a max ported Victor.

It is not worth much on a small inch deal even with good flowing heads, unless it was a super max effort deal. And may not help them, never tried that.

And I know super max effort is a open ended statement Mr Malik........... Laughing

I agree with you Blake.
I had a shortened end runner, welded intake on a high winding 429 CJ, (actually 438 cid), tuned on the dyno. Trying a "Mafia" intake, just cleaned-up, LOST a little power. The Victor DID have a LOT of work and time spent on it, lol.
If comparing BOTH "out of the box" I am sure the Trick Flow would have been the better piece at that high RPM level.

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Post  quikmule84 on March 6th 2013, 9:42 am

Do you guys consider a 501 with @ 13 to 1 smallish. Currently running an out of the box Victor. Drag race only.

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Post  IDT-572 on March 6th 2013, 10:11 am

Yes,
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Post  HorsinAround on March 6th 2013, 5:16 pm

It works real nice on a 468.. Seen here turning 8600

https://youtu.be/UIFrhsIGEKo
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Post  richter69 on March 6th 2013, 6:09 pm

hell yeah............... Twisted Evil
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Post  IDT-572 on March 6th 2013, 6:20 pm

Sweet Lord Jesus its a ford!!!!!!!! Sounds killer
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Post  Lem Evans on March 6th 2013, 7:07 pm

Nice....real nice Exclamation

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Post  whitefield on March 6th 2013, 7:42 pm

HorsinAround wrote:It works real nice on a 468.. Seen here turning 8600

https://youtu.be/UIFrhsIGEKo


Thats what I am Talking about ! Cool Evil or Very Mad Cool
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Post  HorsinAround on March 6th 2013, 7:58 pm

On that run it started heading north of 8800 which was tighter than I'd ever wound that motor, so I pull the go stick a touch cuz I was afraid it might make the boom sound lol.

That motor is a .040 over, stock stroke, truck crank was done by Adney, intake was from Lem, and the motor was built by Dennis Woody. Pistons were custom forged Diamonds with Oliver billet rods, Heads were DO0e-R's that woody rubbed on flowing 415 on the intakes.
If all goes well, I will have another mafia intake on my 521 build in a few months.
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Post  Lem Evans on March 6th 2013, 8:00 pm

Intake manifolding is like most other componets in an engine...it's application driven. I've had persons inquire about a "mafia" intake for their engine and advised them that they needed a Torker II....not a Victor or the TFS unit.

I'll use J.Y. Kell's 562" P51 engine as an example....it's been four years since it was done and a few things have changed but , I feel it is a valid example.

There was 17 more HP at the two manifold's peak power rpm in favor of the 'mafia' thing. The fully ported victor manifolds [w/o welding etc.] seem to hit a rpm number and immediately fall off.

Randy's engine with the 'mafia':
950.6 HP @ 6,700 rpm
950.6 HP @ 6,800 rpm
951.3 HP @ 6,900 rpm
950.7 HP @ 7,000 rpm

That's .7 Hp from 6,700 rpm to 7,000 rpm...seems the engine is hanging on to it's power.

I have two regrets....
1] The engine was not pulled to 7,200 rpm with the 'mafia thing'.
2] I did not get a copy of the dyno sheet for the best pull with the ported Victor.

Bottom line is that @ 7,000 rpm the ported victor had went back to the house and was down a lot more than 17 hp.


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Post  61coon on March 6th 2013, 10:14 pm

HorsinAround wrote:It works real nice on a 468.. Seen here turning 8600

https://youtu.be/UIFrhsIGEKo

That made the hair stand up om my neck! Awesome pull!
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Post  schmitty on March 6th 2013, 11:57 pm

HorsinAround wrote:It works real nice on a 468.. Seen here turning 8600

https://youtu.be/UIFrhsIGEKo
SWEEET music Twisted Evil
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Post  738drvr on March 7th 2013, 2:28 am

Sweet.
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Post  whitefield on January 15th 2016, 12:11 pm

Bump it up for GMSMKR !
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Post  gmsmkr on January 15th 2016, 12:49 pm

Mmmm.... just what the doc ordered

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Post  windsor on January 16th 2016, 5:57 am

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What about the new "CJ Air Boss" that is being made?
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