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Post  charchar1207 February 22nd 2013, 8:28 pm

what is better a spool, a detroit locker, or a trac loc in my D44 and 9in rear?

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Post  crittersf1 February 22nd 2013, 8:30 pm

Spool the 9" and leave the 44 open.
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Post  IDIeselman February 22nd 2013, 9:35 pm

Depends on what you are running and what type of track. I recommend a spool for the rear and a trac loc up front. The high HP guys with the suspension to carry the front will say open, they generally do not use the front much, the rest of us need all the traction we can get and the trac loc helps while offering forgiveness as not to break too many parts.
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Post  Mike R February 23rd 2013, 1:44 am

X2 In my experience the track loc was very forgiving

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Post  f250mike February 23rd 2013, 2:25 am

I had a spool rear and open front for awhile in my nmro class 1B truck. Later on I welded the front and never looked back.
I would spool both if you have the funds. It's hard to steer but pulls all 4 tires 100%.
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Post  schmitty February 23rd 2013, 12:17 pm

If it's mud only, spool the front and rear. The stock front carrier is a grenade waiting to go boom.
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Post  Old blue Racin Team February 23rd 2013, 1:56 pm

I certainly dont have the power to carry the front but leave the front open, i ran a welded front a time or 3...... wont ever do that again.
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Post  rmcomprandy February 23rd 2013, 10:33 pm

It is a consensus from almost everyone to "spool" the rear but, from several customers of mine, it depends a lot about the depth of the mud on the track or the power level for the better front unit.
The high horsepower guys all seem to use a Dana 50 up front instead of a 44 and like the "Tru-Track" or "Detroit Locker" differential to keep things together. The guys with bucks seem to like the "Gleason" up front.

I don't really know how good this information is but, this is what I am told.

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Post  prosandguy February 24th 2013, 11:30 am

I agree with what Randy and a couple others have said, getting a spool for the rear should be a given, but the front does present some options.
The question to answer first it, are you running a timed, shallow pit or drag, or are you in a deep bog?
If you are running a shallow deal, I'd just leave the front open. My bronco had a trak lock up front, great for hillclimbs and such, but on the flat tracks, you better be lined up arrow straight or the front end had a tendency to "pull" the truck where ever it wanted to go.
If you are running a bog type of deal, locker or even a spool, and just remember to unlock the hubs around the pit area and driving around the house. Leaving the front locked makes it a bugger to turn and stuff, can be a real pain.

Hope that helps some.
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Post  schmitty February 24th 2013, 4:54 pm

Gearing can make a huge difference in how a front locker/spool setup will work for you. I had an open front in my Street Stock and Super Stock, and it worked fine, but I did notice at a few races that my front wasn't doing as much as it should have. When I switched to a Modified, I ran an open front for a few races, and noticed that the spider gears were cracked, and it was about to scatter. I put a spool in it, and never looked back. I run smaller tires in the front, and have a small amout of "overdrive" with the front gear, and I believe that is what helps the steering issue. If you are running the same size tire front and rear, use the next lower gear in the front to make sure the front is pulling faster than the rear is pushing so the truck will stay straight on it's own. Another trick you can use to get a little overdrive in the front is run a lower tire pressure in the back than the front, or use different width wheels front to back. When I was running 33's, I ran a wider set of wheels in the back than the front to get a little stagger, and then ran 6 psi in the rear and 20 psi in the fronts. Worked quite well for me.
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Post  kjett February 27th 2013, 11:02 pm

My experience in deep bog pits, shallow pits, and hill and hole pits have all led me to know that to be fast and go straight with or without big horsepower is to spool the rear and leave the front open. I've got a wall of shame with quite a few broken axle shaft pieces (both stock and chromoly) from my d44 while running a welded front for a bit, then a spool, then a trac loc, and haven't broken any since I went back to the open diff with chromoly shafts and upgraded joints.

As Momma said, " spooled front axles are the debil!!"
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Post  daveboys February 28th 2013, 10:04 am

Any thing but a open in the front will result in broken parts, and make it hard to drive.

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Post  mudtrucker February 28th 2013, 7:17 pm

spool the rear leave the front open.
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Post  charchar1207 February 28th 2013, 8:34 pm

ok thanks for all the responses. The tires will be running is 39.5 boggers. Any certain brand of spool and/or trac loc?

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Post  schmitty March 3rd 2013, 12:04 am

Get a spool, cheaper and better. Call Quick Performance, they know their stuff when it comes to differetial parts. Cool
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Post  68formalGT May 10th 2013, 12:25 pm

I'm running spools front and rear.
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Post  pigs521bbf May 10th 2013, 12:51 pm

68formalGT wrote:I'm running spools front and rear.

ANY PROBLEMS WITH YOUR FRONT END?? WHERE YOU GET THEM FROM?

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Post  68formalGT May 10th 2013, 5:45 pm

pigs521bbf wrote:
68formalGT wrote:I'm running spools front and rear.

ANY PROBLEMS WITH YOUR FRONT END?? WHERE YOU GET THEM FROM?

None yet, Randy's Ring and Pinion.
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