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Post  IDT-572 on May 23rd 2013, 9:39 am

cletus66 wrote:I need to step up my game. Laughing

cheers lol!
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Post  bluef100fe on May 23rd 2013, 3:40 pm

bb429power wrote:Being that you have a truck and I actually lived the scenario, I'll chime in.
My truck 67 f100, 460, worked over iron heads, mild cam, dual plane with cheap holley 750 vac secondaries, tight street converter, 9:1 compression, spins to 6k.

My buddy...68 f100, 427, same wheelbase and trans, bigger converter, nice quickfuel 780 carb, worked over iron heads (no valve job though), dual plane, bigger cam than mine, 12:1 compression, Spins to 7k same gearing as me.

I ran over a second faster than him on a base tune, with major axle wrap, crappy 1-2 shift and letting off affraid He rode in it and agrees mine pulls waay harder than his. And that is because, I have a 460, a truck engine. It has a longer stroke, so I had more torque than him by a lot, his 427 is meant to rev high and make horsepower. Mine is meant to do work, which is great for my heavy azz truck.

Not saying the 427 should determine how all FE's are, as there is the 390 truck engine as well. I've tuned one of those and a 360 as well. Someone correct me if I have overstepped or misspoken, I'd rather learn than go on with the incorrect logic. Very Happy Just my .02, other guys here have actually built both engines, I have not. Only built a 460, and tuned FE's.

Justin,

I'm thinkin your buddy has a problem with his combination... Tell him I will trade my pump gas 390 truck engine for his race gas 427 so the two of you can go have a close race..... Unless his truck is 4x4 there has to be something up with his combo. I ran a 390 with unported heads and shelf grind comp cam and it went 8.0's/12.7's at the track in my truck with a TCI street fighter converter, 3.70 gears, drag radials, foot braking at 3900lbs we did have really good air that day but still. I feel bad for your buddy and his 427 if that is actually what it is. Can't go off the casting numbers on the block ya know. Anyway I'll go back into my cave where everybody knows me lol. Boat anchors be damned.... I'll still run one.. cause I can.. Smile
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Post  bbf-falcon on May 24th 2013, 7:51 am

Cody,I was listening to your truck going down the track. That thing revs like a Small block. I love it. Very Happy

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Post  IDT-572 on May 24th 2013, 8:58 am

bluef100fe wrote:
bb429power wrote:Being that you have a truck and I actually lived the scenario, I'll chime in.
My truck 67 f100, 460, worked over iron heads, mild cam, dual plane with cheap holley 750 vac secondaries, tight street converter, 9:1 compression, spins to 6k.

My buddy...68 f100, 427, same wheelbase and trans, bigger converter, nice quickfuel 780 carb, worked over iron heads (no valve job though), dual plane, bigger cam than mine, 12:1 compression, Spins to 7k same gearing as me.

I ran over a second faster than him on a base tune, with major axle wrap, crappy 1-2 shift and letting off affraid He rode in it and agrees mine pulls waay harder than his. And that is because, I have a 460, a truck engine. It has a longer stroke, so I had more torque than him by a lot, his 427 is meant to rev high and make horsepower. Mine is meant to do work, which is great for my heavy azz truck.



Not saying the 427 should determine how all FE's are, as there is the 390 truck engine as well. I've tuned one of those and a 360 as well. Someone correct me if I have overstepped or misspoken, I'd rather learn than go on with the incorrect logic. Very Happy Just my .02, other guys here have actually built both engines, I have not. Only built a 460, and tuned FE's.

Justin,

I'm thinkin your buddy has a problem with his combination... Tell him I will trade my pump gas 390 truck engine for his race gas 427 so the two of you can go have a close race..... Unless his truck is 4x4 there has to be something up with his combo. I ran a 390 with unported heads and shelf grind comp cam and it went 8.0's/12.7's at the track in my truck with a TCI street fighter converter, 3.70 gears, drag radials, foot braking at 3900lbs we did have really good air that day but still. I feel bad for your buddy and his 427 if that is actually what it is. Can't go off the casting numbers on the block ya know. Anyway I'll go back into my cave where everybody knows me lol. Boat anchors be damned.... I'll still run one.. cause I can.. Smile

If you turned in those big mirrors it would pick up another tenth................. Laughing
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Post  bluef100fe on May 24th 2013, 8:59 am

Thanks Rick,

Wish I would have been able to get video of the passes but your pictures are the best I have of my truck and I thank you for that. Also got to thank George again for talking me into the Phoenix tires. I was very reluctant to spend the big money on them but I'm very happy with them now. This engine is the same one I runnered up with in the BBF bash 2009 & 2010 with. It just keeps on running. I've been tweaking it along the way but its still the same heavy old parts that were always in it. That dog does hunt. Someday I will build a "good" engine for the truck as I've collected enough parts for two or three bigger/better deals for the truck. I'm just kinda fond of the one I have in the truck mainly because I've had it for so long and it runs well. I also like telling people its just a worn out 390 lol. Thanks for the compliments. Sorry for the thread hi-jack.
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Post  bluef100fe on May 24th 2013, 9:06 am

IDT-572 wrote:
bluef100fe wrote:
bb429power wrote:Being that you have a truck and I actually lived the scenario, I'll chime in.
My truck 67 f100, 460, worked over iron heads, mild cam, dual plane with cheap holley 750 vac secondaries, tight street converter, 9:1 compression, spins to 6k.

My buddy...68 f100, 427, same wheelbase and trans, bigger converter, nice quickfuel 780 carb, worked over iron heads (no valve job though), dual plane, bigger cam than mine, 12:1 compression, Spins to 7k same gearing as me.

I ran over a second faster than him on a base tune, with major axle wrap, crappy 1-2 shift and letting off affraid He rode in it and agrees mine pulls waay harder than his. And that is because, I have a 460, a truck engine. It has a longer stroke, so I had more torque than him by a lot, his 427 is meant to rev high and make horsepower. Mine is meant to do work, which is great for my heavy azz truck.



Not saying the 427 should determine how all FE's are, as there is the 390 truck engine as well. I've tuned one of those and a 360 as well. Someone correct me if I have overstepped or misspoken, I'd rather learn than go on with the incorrect logic. Very Happy Just my .02, other guys here have actually built both engines, I have not. Only built a 460, and tuned FE's.

Justin,

I'm thinkin your buddy has a problem with his combination... Tell him I will trade my pump gas 390 truck engine for his race gas 427 so the two of you can go have a close race..... Unless his truck is 4x4 there has to be something up with his combo. I ran a 390 with unported heads and shelf grind comp cam and it went 8.0's/12.7's at the track in my truck with a TCI street fighter converter, 3.70 gears, drag radials, foot braking at 3900lbs we did have really good air that day but still. I feel bad for your buddy and his 427 if that is actually what it is. Can't go off the casting numbers on the block ya know. Anyway I'll go back into my cave where everybody knows me lol. Boat anchors be damned.... I'll still run one.. cause I can.. Smile

If you turned in those big mirrors it would pick up another tenth................. Laughing

Probably so Blake but the big @$$ mirrors help me see the fast cars coming up behind me. I think I was the slowest vehicle at the ford shoot out this year and I'm ok with that. Well I think I was faster than my powerstroke that Wes drove, John and his powerstroke, and George with his F150 but I don't count them as race vehicles lol. Was a great time, just wish more people would have made the trip.
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Post  IDT-572 on May 24th 2013, 9:59 am

I'm hoping the next one will bring more people, economy bad and weather has killed us the last couple years.

Your ole truck is gittin it.............. Twisted Evil I'm building a 428 with Edelbrock heads on it now for a 67 Mustang Fastback.

Looking at the Eddy aluminum heads, I think I could make a set of those do some great things. Cool
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Post  bluef100fe on May 24th 2013, 10:35 am

Blake if you haven't got the heads bought yet I would take a look at Robert ponds new medium riser head or barry R's new head from survival Motorsports. Look to be a better starting point than the eddies... fwiw
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Post  IDT-572 on May 24th 2013, 10:37 am

bluef100fe wrote:Blake if you haven't got the heads bought yet I would take a look at Robert ponds new medium riser head or barry R's new head from survival Motorsports. Look to be a better starting point than the eddies... fwiw

Already have the Eddy's but I didn't know about the Ponds heads, I will check them out , thanks.............
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Post  bluef100fe on May 24th 2013, 10:52 am

Your welcome anytime buddy... would like to hear how the 428 runs when you get it done...
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Post  IDT-572 on May 24th 2013, 11:03 am

Will do waiting on flywheel for balancing now.
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Post  psfracer on May 24th 2013, 8:04 pm

I have owned both (years ago I had a 1967 Mustang GTA with a 390 that I also put a 428 in it later). It seems to me if you can start from a clean slate, go with the 385 series motor. More aftermarket support and better cylinder head choices.

All though I would love to have a dual quad hi riser 427. But its clear from a $$/HP perspective, its really no contest. 385 series all the way.
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Post  bbf-falcon on May 25th 2013, 9:30 am

Blake if you need anything for that FE,I have a good friend that probably has more FE parts than anyone in the US. JetBoat Bob just freshened up one of my other friends 427 HiRiser engines for his 64 Tbolt.

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Post  dfree383 on May 25th 2013, 9:53 am

IDT-572 wrote:I'm hoping the next one will bring more people, economy bad and weather has killed us the last couple years.

Your ole truck is gittin it.............. Twisted Evil I'm building a 428 with Edelbrock heads on it now for a 67 Mustang Fastback.

Looking at the Eddy aluminum heads, I think I could make a set of those do some great things. Cool

Check out Barry Robotnic's new head they are nice and price right. Survival Motorsport.
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Post  motorhead on May 26th 2013, 7:45 am

Well Boker, I'm in a situation kind of like yours. I have a 73 F-100 with a 302 mild to wild build, and a 67 F-100 with a 390 all out wild build. Now I have a 77 F-150 4x4 with a 429/460 that I am almost finished with. I like the 302, I love the 390 and I can't wait until the 385 is up and running. All 3 have been complete customized restorations and I am just about finished with the 77. Hope to fire the motor up on Indepedence Day afro

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Post  GT300TD on May 26th 2013, 9:34 am

[quote="bbf-falcon"]Blake if you need anything for that FE,I have a good friend that probably has more FE parts than anyone in the US.


I'll second that cheers



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