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Post  wilmus427 on June 12th 2013, 5:08 pm

Im building a dragster for my son who just got finished with 4 years in a Jr Dragster.  

Its a 235 wb,  will probably weigh about 1900lbs  ( im guessing) with the stock 460, D3 headed motor and stock cast iron intake.

Powerglide with a 8 inch ATI converter,  

I don't want to scare him with a high horsepower motor so Im dropping in a stock motor to start.

Im going through this stock 460,  and I would like to put in a larger cam.
The cam in it now doesn't look too healthy, so to be safe, Im just going to throw in a new cam.

Because of the stock D3 heads,  and non-adjustable rockers, Im guessing that Im limited in how much lift i can put in.
From what I have read so far,  I'm limited to about .540 lift...   I think???

I dont want to put any money into the heads except using the correct springs, retainers, keepers, etc.
But Im going to leave the stock rockers on.

Any ideas on which cam would be a good one?

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Post  rmcomprandy on June 12th 2013, 6:26 pm

You are correct about the lift...
  A custom hydraulic lifter camshaft using the correct, matching components in the valve train with only that amount of lift but, duration to match the vehicle and torque converter is your best bet.

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Post  wilmus427 on June 12th 2013, 6:53 pm

I was thinking about Comp Cams 34-331-4,  Magnum 280H

Anyone have any thoughts?

Its hard to pick a camshaft for this application,  lol

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Post  rmcomprandy on June 12th 2013, 6:58 pm

With an 8" converter ... that is not a good choice; not even close.

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Post  dfree383 on June 13th 2013, 1:50 am

I'd swap a set of early heads on it to at leash give it a little snap.
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Post  69F100 on June 14th 2013, 12:50 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:With an 8" converter ... that is not a good choice; not even close.




Get with Randy he can design you a cam and grind it for you for just over the cost as off the self cam. He designed the one in my old engine 460 and it worked better than the comp self cam I had in it and only cost me about $40 over what I paid for the comp cam. One thing about a custom cam it will be designed for what it is going in where the shelf cam get you in the ball park the custom cam will be batting home runs.
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Post  wilmus427 on June 14th 2013, 1:28 pm

I understand,

All i was trying to do was find something a little better than what was in there.

And not have to feel like i was pulling teeth to get an answer.

As long as it starts and drives,  its ok with me.

A stock 460 should have this thing in the high tens in the 1/4.

So coming from a Jr Dragster,  which runs like mid 12's in the 1/4  to this car,
I wanted to make sure he could handle the car,  And then build a better motor.

This engine will only be in until I can build his new one. 
Which should take me a month or so.

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Post  wilmus427 on June 14th 2013, 5:24 pm

I hope I've done this right,,

Here is a pic of the project so far.

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Post  rmcomprandy on June 14th 2013, 8:25 pm

It doesn't sound as if you understand at all.
An 8" converter will have a stall speed somewhere up in the 4,800 RPM range pr higher but, you wish to use a cam which is all done at 5,500 RPM; IF even that high when used with other stock components. It definitely will start and run so, go have a good time very slow.

Use an 11" converter around 2,800 to 3,200 RPM stall speed and MAYBE it will be OK.

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