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Post  Dave C. on July 25th 2013, 7:50 am

And he's a PIMP.! Mad 

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Post  4thHorseman on July 25th 2013, 10:15 am

Just my opinion and not trying to sway anybody here...

If satelite tv had coverage of "little guy" drag racing events I'd be watching it all the time.  It'd be on a flat screen in my shop everytime I was out there wrenching or just hanging out with a beer or 2.  I can watch guys run 9's to 13's all day slugging it out.  Throw in coverage of nostalgia events and such and I'd be watching it at work on my tablet too. A little coverage of guys thrashing in the pits to get ready for the next round/grudge match.  And that to me would get folks interested in making trips to a dealer.  Either for a new model or to visit the parts counter.  Your average Joe don't watch a top fuel or a pro mod and think "Hey I want to buy a new Mustang because the Ford sponsered funny car won Sunday."  Unrealistic.  But he see's a Mr. Nobody's twin screw 5.0 handing it to a ZR1 and he goes "hmmmmmm....  I can have one of those."  

Look at how popular Pinks, PassTime, and Street Outlaws have been.  Like 'em or not, they have all been good for the sport -no denying.

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Post  bbf-falcon on July 25th 2013, 12:06 pm

I can agree w/that.Very Happy 

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Post  kim on July 25th 2013, 1:26 pm

I agree, and that was the beauty of speed, before it went all NASCAR. Used to see IHRA coverage from start to finish, had great coverage or WRC, hell even pretty damn good coverage of formula 1. Also had stuff in there with off road, score, HDRA, had swamp buggy racing, truck and tractor pulling, we could see applications of HP, driver skill, and variations of autos from around the world.

Now we get NASCAR, the pre race, race build-up, the interview of the crew chiefs, the pit crew, the comentators interviewing each-other. There is some 45 hours of time sucked up each week covering the same race event by the same people, saying the same thing. Then there is the actual race......... now don't take it wrong, I like NASCAR, ill attend a race every year or so, I follow a few drivers. But I don't need to see a show about a show about the guy who met a guy that washed the wheels of the truck that hauled the car to the track.....

I love the sights, sounds, and feel of the top fuel thunder, but when it comes to the better "drama" of drag racing its definatly found in the sportsman ranks, versus pro. Low/no budget guys making it work week in and out, trying to just have fun.

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Post  Wes Littrell on July 25th 2013, 5:57 pm

Agree 100% . I like to watch stuff I can relate to. Things a normal person could actually own and race. And not a bunch of cars that look like their tied together. Nhra is just like NASCAR ,a bunch of dictators that want to tell everybody what to do. Like with NASCAR I don't want to see a 50 car blob moving around the track, I want to see someone lap the field. It's become all about money and not about good old fashion ingenuity. It's all so far out of reach of the common man.

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Post  richter69 on July 25th 2013, 6:16 pm

they still aint mailed my license renewal back........ NHRA can suck my nuts.

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Post  Lem Evans on July 25th 2013, 6:48 pm

"Things a normal person could actually own and race."

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Post  Lem Evans on July 25th 2013, 6:50 pm

richter69 wrote:they still aint mailed my license renewal back........ NHRA can suck my nuts.

Sounds kinky affraid 

Anyway......untill NHRA offers the 7.3L diesel class I'm not watching that crap Evil or Very Mad 

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Post  richter69 on July 25th 2013, 7:38 pm

I wouldnt watch it if they did.

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Post  rmcomprandy on July 25th 2013, 9:05 pm

The NON-fans I sometimes talk with, who like to go watch some drag racing once in a while normally prefer getting into the racing of the Stock and Super Stock type cars but, they get turned-off because they don't understand the handicap starting procedure. However, an index race is OK to them even though it does have somewhat of a handicap start; just not 7 tenths of a second or even more than a full second.
An index class is seldom more than a couple tenths or so between them; they are leaving at almost the same time.

On the thread's original note ... Ford Motor Company has put the screws to every dedicated drag racer who was intent upon using a Ford product and spreading their name with it.
Look back ... every one of 'em felt the FMC screws sooner or later.
Drag racers are NOT people to them ... simply a cash cow and if they can find a way to keep their cash and still get the press ... they will.

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Post  Wes Littrell on July 25th 2013, 9:26 pm

Lem Evans wrote: "Things a normal person could actually own and race."

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What you trying to say Very Happy 

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Post  gdog on July 25th 2013, 9:58 pm

Does Chevy or Dodge treat "their" race people and I mean from us grassroots guys to top fuel any different?  The fact that "we" won't have car in the race will not change what brand we race or pull or drive.  I guess I'm glad for the support that we get from FoMoCo by way of part availability and dealer network that in most cases works with small time racers.

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Post  torino501 on July 26th 2013, 7:32 am

Lem Evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:they still aint mailed my license renewal back........ NHRA can suck my nuts.

Sounds kinky affraid 

Anyway......untill NHRA offers the 7.3L diesel class I'm not watching that crap Evil or Very Mad 
if they where to have a 6.7L class id watch it.between the turbos, ex valves and h/p fuel pumps crappin the bed,those racers would be busy between rounds. id like to go just to listing to all the cussing and swearing.

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Re: IS FORD LEAVING NHRA?

Post  Curt on July 26th 2013, 9:28 am

maverick wrote:
Curt wrote:
maverick wrote:Little guy racing is exciting.  Soap operas are not.  Ditch the electronic throttle stops and give the little guys some exposure.

I guess I'm confused. How does throttle stops affect little guys. This is the only equalizer in any category that isn't pro. If you think it bores the crowd, you have just describe everything except top fuel and out of control overpowered stock body cars. Suspect 

Those NHRA index classes were originally created to allow low-buck guys to compete...after all, how hard is it to build a car capable of a 9.90 e.t.?  Good idea in the beginning, but those class racers have figured out that there's an advantage to being the faster car.  Look at SuperGas now.  How many of us little guys can compete with a pro built, state of the art cusom roadster with 700+ inches of alcohol injected power and space shuttle electronics designed to slow the thing to 9.90...when it's capable printing 7 second time slips like a xerox machine?.

Sure, it's conceivable that a guy could take a 9.90 capable Foxbody and win at SuperGas...it just isn't likely.  I think this is where the "took a knife to a gunfight" metaphor originated.

Bracket racing and Super racing is about running the number. The Advantage of super class is no advantage on the tree. I can guarantee you that a well prepared SG car that will run 9.30s to 9.50s can win more races than one that will run 7s. The only difference is the guy running 7s is typically the better finish line driver that was bored with the slower speeds. If you cut a light and dial your car, its not hard to win a SC race. Our super pro track champion a couple of years ago ran a 7.99-8.02 (1/8th mile) maverick. The next slower car ran 5 teens. He didn't have a problem handing everyones ass to them with a car that he probably had about $10,000 less than the dragsters and roadsters.

The same crowd that leaves the stands for Super Classes, are the same ones that leave for all classes except pro. Out of control stock bodied cars with a high percentage of hitting the wall is about the only chance of getting them back in between rounds. The only reason anything but the circus brings in fans is due to promoting. Wasn't ADRL giving tickets away to anyone that would take them back when they were filling the stands? If you walk the stands at a small tire hit the wall race, you'll find that everyone in the stands knows someone that invited them, of is involved with a race team. After all, it takes a crew of 27 to run a 10.5 car, or at least that is what I have seen.

I have been involved in some type of racing since I was 8 years old. One thing I have noticed in 43 years, is if they don't have professionals in the line up, there aren't many strange faces in the crowd.

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Re: IS FORD LEAVING NHRA?

Post  TravisRice on July 26th 2013, 11:45 am

Wes Littrell wrote:
Lem Evans wrote: "Things a normal person could actually own and race."

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What you trying to say Very Happy 


I'm thinking Lem is trying to say this thread would really blow up if Lumber Liquidators tried to screw the racers ...........Laughing  I like thinking outside the box myself

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