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Post  cool40 on August 20th 2013, 12:50 am

this was the pass friday night. i cant figure why the low side rev went past 4800,where it is set at.the other problem is how slow the rpm came up,only gain 600rpm to 60'out.the rpm drop at shift point is 1000 then climbs back to 7400 at the end. confused  i'm new to this thing but it looks like the converter is 6-800 rpm tight,but the 7400rpm finish figures to 21% slip.........any ideas?
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Post  cool40 on August 20th 2013, 2:20 pm

Bump for a good deal! Very Happy 
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Post  richter69 on August 20th 2013, 5:25 pm

should be an easy tenth in there somewhere...........
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Post  cool40 on August 20th 2013, 10:49 pm

richter69 wrote:should be an easy tenth in there somewhere...........
m5 wiould help i guess... bounce 
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Post  dr's wife racing on August 22nd 2013, 12:01 pm

I have a grid on my new car but have not used it yet. Wish I could offer some help. If you need some help the guy I work with on the drag radial car is good. Give me a shout and i'll hook you up with him.
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Post  cool40 on October 4th 2013, 7:07 pm

Got it figured out.the low side has a safety feature for 30 second lock out after transbrake release. Thats ok if you dont have a probrake.next issue was the 10*launch retard.I've been leaving at 24*for 1second out.maybe with the timing fixed and leaving less than 6500 it'll work better.
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Post  IDT-572 on October 4th 2013, 8:04 pm

You fixin ya fly bro.......
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Post  cool40 on October 4th 2013, 8:47 pm

IDT-572 wrote:You fixin ya fly bro.......
fix that snake! Lem's gona be all over it...Laughing 
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Post  Dave C. on January 25th 2015, 4:45 pm

Did you get the grid system figured out ? How do you like it?

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Post  cool40 on January 25th 2015, 7:12 pm

Dave C. wrote:Did you get the grid system  figured out ? How do you  like it?
yes its great! It has so many things on it I don't know how to use it all.lol
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Re: anybody use msd grid?

Post  whatbumper on January 25th 2015, 10:46 pm

The grid has turned out to be very good. We use it on pro mods to control the promag as well as the X275 nitrous cars. Lots of options.







I still like every EFI system better because they can be made to do all of the same things but each has there place.

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Post  powerstrokeace on January 26th 2015, 12:16 am

cool40 wrote:
Dave C. wrote:Did you get the grid system  figured out ? How do you  like it?
yes its great! It has so many things on it I don't know how to use it all.lol

We have one on a new deal were working on and I have no clue how it works!!!!! What a Face


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Post  cool40 on January 26th 2015, 1:01 am

powerstrokeace wrote:
cool40 wrote:
Dave C. wrote:Did you get the grid system  figured out ? How do you  like it?
yes its great! It has so many things on it I don't know how to use it all.lol

We have one on a new deal were working on and I have no clue how it works!!!!! What a Face


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Post  cool40 on January 26th 2015, 1:03 am

richter69 wrote:should be an easy tenth in there somewhere...........
looks like you were right hErO, i changed the converter 3 times and got that tenth! Cool
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Re: anybody use msd grid?

Post  kjett on November 2nd 2015, 10:12 am

Bringing back an old thread. I've finally figured I need to upgrade from the old original MSD 7al-2 with a start/retard box attached and looking at a grid. I still need the start retard and want to add in a 2 step as well as tie into a co2 shifter setup, so figured this would be the best way to eliminate the me issues. Any recommendations on how to set this thing up or if I need any additional modules?
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Post  cool40 on November 2nd 2015, 10:18 am

kjett wrote:Bringing back an old thread. I've finally figured I need to upgrade from the old original MSD 7al-2 with a start/retard box attached and looking at a grid. I still need the start retard and want to add in a 2 step as well as tie into a co2 shifter setup, so figured this would be the best way to eliminate the me issues. Any recommendations on how to set this thing up or if I need any additional modules?
you can use the grid with your 7al2 box without any trouble. Make sure and have an old laptop,pre Windows 8, or you'll have trouble with programing it. It'll do everything your looking for and then some. Cool
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Re: anybody use msd grid?

Post  kjett on November 2nd 2015, 10:32 am

Good to know! Looks like I'll be buying some electronics soon.
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Re: anybody use msd grid?

Post  cool40 on November 2nd 2015, 2:44 pm

My favorite thing about it is the fact it takes the place of all them little plug on boxes. Cool
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Re: anybody use msd grid?

Post  steven gregoire on November 9th 2015, 10:36 am

i put a grid in the dragster this summer. had some firm ware issues. the box would get stupid and the timing curve would go nuts. as i would rev the engine, the timing would drop. reload the program and it was fine. once i updated the firmware it "seems" ok. It is a pretty slick piece though
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Post  kjett on November 9th 2015, 11:24 am

Just received my new grid. Will go out and wire it in the truck, then time to start playing. Twisted Evil
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Post  whatbumper on November 9th 2015, 11:45 pm

kjett wrote:Just received my new grid. Will go out and wire it in the truck, then time to start playing. Twisted Evil

Before you use it upgrade everything with the new firmware from their website. We've used them with about every Windows operating system out there without issue. It can do more things than most people need or even know that it can do. It's an awesome piece. About the only thing better is using efi systems because they can do everything a grid can do and if you're efi you already have it. Wink

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Post  kjett on November 10th 2015, 9:55 am

I was playing around with it last night. temporarily powered it up in the kitchen and hooked it to the laptop. This thing will do way more than I will ever need in a mud truck. I'm still a little unclear on how to set up the rpm switches. I'm debating on getting the ACD drag parts co2 shifter with microprocessor or try to run it through the grid. Was reading that with the grid, it seems to always want to see an rpm drop before it releases for the next shift where I can program that out on the ACD and just pulse it. Any recommendations on which way to go? This is a straight line mud bog truck, launch off the transbrake at 4800, doing the 1-2 shift about 58-6000 and 2-3 shift about 7-7200. Tired of the inconsistancy of trying to do this by hand while making sure I don't roll the truck in the mud after hitting the hill in the middle of the track.
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Post  whatbumper on November 11th 2015, 10:22 am

I'd prefer to use a separate controller for that than use the grid. We've seen a lot of inconsistency using the grid to shift. Others have been perfect though.

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Post  kjett on April 21st 2016, 1:48 pm

whatbumper wrote:I'd prefer to use a separate controller for that than use the grid.  We've seen a lot of inconsistency using the grid to shift.  Others have been perfect though.

I think I'm seeing what you were talking about. in a drag racing world, its normal to see some rpm drop on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. However, I'm in a mud racing world where you really don't see that rpm drop, especially on the 1-2 shift simply because of the constant wheel slip. Lowest I can set the rpm drop is 200 rpm and that's not cutting it. MSD Tech suggests adding switches to the shifter to close when it goes into 2nd and 3rd gear then trigger step inputs. Know of any way to do that on a Pro Stick or know of any shifter that has provisions for that?
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Post  Moodyblues on April 30th 2016, 9:35 pm

I have the grid system myself but have not installed it yet. I've done a bit of research and it seems like it will even wash dishes. cheers
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