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Post  deliveredfast on October 2nd 2013, 12:24 am

brand new idt ultra motor never fired, just put oil in it today. went to prime it up and only got oil to passenger side of motor. video below. Can someone tell me what the problem may be.

Idt ultra block,roller cam bearings,compcam lifters, jessel shaft rockers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKPv6InDEdg
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Post  samiam on October 2nd 2013, 2:18 am

what priming tool are you using, It should be the same dimensions as a standard distributor if my memory serves me right, might check that
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Re: No oil getting to driver side valvetrain

Post  dfree383 on October 2nd 2013, 2:40 am

did you use restrictors? Did you install all the plugs correctly?
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Post  deliveredfast on October 2nd 2013, 8:34 am

Im using a priming rod from summit, I believe u are thinking of the chevys on that aspect.

Jay from Idt Racing assembled my short block so I have no idea if it is correct, but Im sure they put restrictors in.
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Post  LivermoreDave on October 2nd 2013, 8:55 am

I didn't watch all the video, please excuse me. I noticed a tool attached to the crankshaft bolt, did you rotate the engine 90 degrees often while priming the oil system? It seems to me some oil should have found it's way to the driver's side. Rotate the engine 360 degrees, 90 degrees at a time and maybe it will help!

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Post  dfree383 on October 2nd 2013, 9:01 am

deliveredfast wrote:Im using a priming rod from summit, I believe u are thinking of the chevys on that aspect.

Jay from Idt Racing assembled my short block so I have no idea if it is correct, but Im sure they put restrictors in.
I give Jay a buzz and talk with him about it.

do you have the lifters installed in the correct direction too?
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Post  LivermoreDave on October 2nd 2013, 12:55 pm

dfree383 wrote: lifters installed in the correct direction  
...or remove the valve covers and peek inside at the lifters.

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Post  deliveredfast on October 2nd 2013, 3:51 pm

Talked to jay from IDT and followed his instructions. I pulled the intake to first verify lifters are in correctly, which they are. I then removed driver side pipe plug from the boss in intake valley, primed motor and still no oil. I then removed the passenger side pipe plug and primed, no oil. I then removed cylinder 5 lifters and primed and no oil.

Looks like I will be pulling the motor. I was told maybe 1 of the plugs in rear of motor may be in too far or something to that nature. Sucks to be me:(

Jay did return my call pretty quick, IDT racing has always had excellent customer service as far as Im concerned. Will keep everyone posted.
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Re: No oil getting to driver side valvetrain

Post  IDT-572 on October 2nd 2013, 4:22 pm

If it has oil in the passenger side, it must have a restriction in the valley crossover.

Or the front plug is in to far and blocking oil to the passenger side enough that it don't have enough volume to cross over to the drivers side.
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found what the issue is

Post  deliveredfast on October 2nd 2013, 5:07 pm

With the help of Blake (idt572) found what the issue is. the cross over boss in the intake valley was not machined all the way through to the lifter galley on the passenger side. see pics below. They came up about 1/2 inch short of the lifter passage.





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Post  the Coug on October 2nd 2013, 5:52 pm

Now the question is why didn't the builder find this when they were assembling it?
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Post  richter69 on October 2nd 2013, 7:24 pm

man you gotta double check everything these days I swear...........good thng is you found it now instead of after it burnt a bunch of pushrods and rocker arms.....
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Post  torino501 on October 2nd 2013, 9:16 pm

I always prime them on a stand....

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Post  Wheelie58 on October 3rd 2013, 12:08 am

It was good to hear that you found it before any damage was done.
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Re: No oil getting to driver side valvetrain

Post  bbf-falcon on October 3rd 2013, 6:01 am

You get a "at a boy" for noticeing that oil wasn't getting where it needed to be. I've talked to racers that have no idea how to prime a engine,much less know what to look for.Glad you found it.

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Post  LivermoreDave on October 3rd 2013, 8:26 am

That "Blake the Snake" is a fmart smella! Good thing somebody was thinking "inside the box" and as been previously commended, your attention to detail and the intelligence to ask for assistance. Good job!

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Re: No oil getting to driver side valvetrain

Post  deliveredfast on October 5th 2013, 10:53 pm

Passage is now open and I have oil to the drivers side valvetrain.Very Happy

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Re: No oil getting to driver side valvetrain

Post  richter69 on October 5th 2013, 11:00 pm

travesty averted.....
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Post  bbf-falcon on October 6th 2013, 6:30 pm

deliveredfast wrote:Passage is now open and I have oil to the drivers side valvetrain.Very Happy

Nice engine Wink 

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Re: No oil getting to driver side valvetrain

Post  IDT-572 on October 6th 2013, 6:39 pm

Life is good..............Cool  Now get that bad boy fired up.Twisted Evil 
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Post  deliveredfast on October 6th 2013, 7:10 pm

IDT-572 wrote:Life is good..............Cool  Now get that bad boy fired up.Twisted Evil 
I'm trying to tonight.
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Re: No oil getting to driver side valvetrain

Post  IDT-572 on October 6th 2013, 7:23 pm

Video or it didn't happen..................Laughing  Keep us posted
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Re: No oil getting to driver side valvetrain

Post  richter69 on October 6th 2013, 7:59 pm

update....
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Post  soupbean on October 6th 2013, 9:10 pm

That thing is gonna fly! cheers 
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