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Post  Rabbit on July 6th 2014, 9:56 am

Hey can a windage tray be installed properly with a main girdle for some reason I feel like the girdle would be to wide for the windage tray I would like to here some past experiences before I go off buying this main girdle for this 466cid 650-675hp with NOS two phase 50-100 thanks for the help Question 
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Post  rmcomprandy on July 6th 2014, 10:38 am

Rabbit wrote:Hey can a windage  tray be installed properly with a main girdle for some reason I feel like the girdle would be to wide for the windage tray I would like to here some past experiences before I go off buying this main girdle for this 466cid 650-675hp with NOS two phase 50-100 thanks for the help Question 

IF you are so inclined that you think you just have to run a girdle, Canton has one where their windage tray attaches to it.

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Post  Rabbit on July 6th 2014, 12:51 pm

I would like to run a girdle because of the instant shock of the nitrous tho its a 2 phase and it would not be that bad but thanks for the reply
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Post  schmitty on July 6th 2014, 5:32 pm

The girdle is not going to prevent a failure.  It will most likely only keep the broken components tied together.  There is a lot of info on here about them if you wish to search for something specific.
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Post  Rabbit on July 6th 2014, 8:56 pm

I always thought that there to keep things from flexing im I right? after all im only going to be putting out 675hp but if I was more to 950+hp it would be more to the point were it would be needed but I think that's what your trying to say
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Post  Rabbit on July 6th 2014, 9:02 pm

thank for the responds and your help
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Post  schmitty on July 6th 2014, 9:12 pm

Most girdles do nothing to prevent flex.
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Post  cool40 on July 6th 2014, 10:47 pm

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Post  Rabbit on July 6th 2014, 11:59 pm

Thanks very nice study 
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Re: Main Girdles and windage trays

Post  IDT-572 on July 8th 2014, 5:27 pm

Ever since they raised the girdle off the machined flat on the cap and added spacers to hold it up above the rounded top, as far as I'm concerned their almost useless.
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Post  richter69 on July 8th 2014, 6:52 pm

makes a good handle to pick the parts up by........
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Post  crittersf1 on July 9th 2014, 1:12 pm

richter69 wrote:makes a good handle to pick the parts up by........


That's about all they're good for.
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Post  rmcomprandy on July 9th 2014, 3:10 pm

crittersf1 wrote:
richter69 wrote:makes a good handle to pick the parts up by........


That's about all they're good for.

I had a customer who was adamant about me installing a "valley halo", also. That was the last straw.

I say "HAD" because I told him to pay me for his parts already gotten and take his engine to the guy who strongly recommended that he HAD to use that HALO.
I suspect it is nobody because he is an internet junky.


He left really, REALLY angry and vowed to tell everyone about this business practice.; (he was the main basis for my rant elsewhere on the forum).  bounce 


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Post  maverick on July 9th 2014, 3:28 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:
crittersf1 wrote:
richter69 wrote:makes a good handle to pick the parts up by........


That's about all they're good for.

I had a customer who was adamant about me installing a "valley halo", also. That was the last straw.

I say "HAD" because I told him to pay me for his parts already gotten and take his engine to the guy who strongly recommended that he HAD to use that HALO.
I suspect it is nobody because he is an internet junky.


He left really, REALLY angry and vowed to tell everyone about this business practice.; (he was the main basis for my rant elsewhere on the forum).  bounce 


You're better off. That's probably the same guy who will screw up his tuneup, turn the engine into scrap, then blame the builder.
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Post  IDT-572 on July 9th 2014, 3:49 pm

I wonder how his proctologist got all those parts out of his rear. Razz  I'm sure you told him where to put them. Laughing 
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Post  maverick on July 9th 2014, 3:54 pm

Diplomacy: The art of telling another person to go %#&k himself in such a way that he'll thank you. Razz 
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Post  rmcomprandy on July 9th 2014, 10:44 pm

IDT-572 wrote:I wonder how his proctologist got all those parts out of his rear. Razz  I'm sure you told him where to put them. Laughing 

SORRY for this getting way off-topic...

No Blake, I didn't ... I was as "matter of fact" as could be.  He said he couldn't pay me for the parts I already had gotten and I said it was OK to leave them here but, after 30 days there would be a storage fee because I no longer was doing any labor on anything further for his engine. He blew-up over that or the $2,600.00; mostly for a partial rotating assembly with custom Diamond pistons and head work.
He actually expected me to give him his heads and parts, then he would pay me later. He figured he was entitled to get them ...   Rolling Eyes   scratch 


I asked him to leave but, he called his buddy, (I overheard the conversation and they were just going to take the stuff physically if necessary), so I candidly called the county sheriff  and said there was a potential robbery in progress.  So, the sheriff showed-up the same time as the guy's buddy and that sheriff escorted them away.  It was conveyed that if this happens again, he will go to jail.

It has been almost 3 weeks and I haven't gotten any money or any word about this stuff.
I am in the process of writing a registered letter to be signed-for upon delivery and at the end of 45 days I will own these parts and heads.  
I would rather get paid and have him take this stuff out of here.

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