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Post  FalconEh on October 7th 2014, 11:20 pm

dfree383 wrote:You need to invest in a degree kit, some clay and a couple of gaskets. You need to let us know how you are defying the laws of "the shit won't clear"..... study

I hate to call BS but I have messed with P-51 heads on dished conventional pistons and it would work with a small flat tappet...... But a roller of any size..... The laws of "that shit won't clear" is real......
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Post  linearfab on October 7th 2014, 11:38 pm

linearfab wrote:How thick of a head gasket do u guys normally run .. also why would i get in here to  ask for help. Then lie to everyone about what i have . I have a degree wheel. But i dont have a piston stop that will screw into the head  i guess i can turn one on the lathe at work this week end. And degree the cam And see . I dont want to tear the heads off unless i know forsure the cam is way off. Which i Was there when it was installed and the dots wher lined up  but not while he degreed it  . But if it runs decent tomorrow (11.50 -11.60s). Im not gunna touch it .

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Post  nuclearcobra on October 8th 2014, 7:27 am

Nobody said you were a liar , its just fact that a cam that big will not clear those pistons at all unless something is way off one way or the other , and the dots lining up doesn't mean it was ever degreed , he might have put a regular timing chain on it without the extra keyways in the crank gear for retarding or advancing it. I don't think even the early ''Retarted'' timing sets would even allow a cam that big to come close to clearing .
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Post  IDT-572 on October 8th 2014, 9:07 am

linearfab wrote:How thick of a head gasket do u guys normally run .. also why would i get in here to  ask for help. Then lie to everyone about what i have . I have a degree wheel. But i dont have a piston stop that will screw into the head  i guess i can turn one on the lathe at work this week end. And degree the cam And see . I dont want to tear the heads off unless i know forsure the cam is way off. Which i Was there when it was installed and the dots wher lined up  but not while he degreed it  . But if it runs decent tomorrow (11.50 -11.60s). Im not gunna touch it .

If the cams retarded 16.5 degrees, it may run a 10.50-10.60 Lol Laughing I don't think it is though because it wouldn't get out of it's own way.


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Post  linearfab on October 8th 2014, 9:12 am

Guess we will find out tonight


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Post  linearfab on October 8th 2014, 9:19 am

Ill try and degree it soon so i can show those numbers too so we can scratch our heads some more

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Post  IDT-572 on October 8th 2014, 9:32 am

linearfab wrote: Ill try and degree it soon so i can show those numbers too so we can scratch our heads some more

Well I'm with you, if you degree the cam and it's in where it is supposed to be, and the valves are sealed good, I would run it too.

Then explain how it works when I freshen it. sometime down the road.
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Post  linearfab on October 8th 2014, 7:40 pm

11.48. 116mph. Shifting at 7200rpm. Goin through the traps at 6400. .. needs some N02 lol

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Post  nuclearcobra on October 8th 2014, 9:55 pm

Yes a good improvement but still not where it should be , and if it was mine I wouldn't be to bummed about it ,heck the parts are there already I'd just have to find out why now. Maybe the guy who built it really did retard it enough so it didn't hit.
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Post  linearfab on October 8th 2014, 9:58 pm

nuclearcobra wrote:Yes a good improvement but still not where it should be , and if it was mine I wouldn't be to bummed about it ,heck the parts are there already I'd just have to find out why now. Maybe the guy who built it really did retard it enough so it didn't hit.
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Well for it only having. 3:89 rear gears and 1000rpm down. Through the traps . Im not really disapointed

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Post  linearfab on October 8th 2014, 10:02 pm

U guys all said . It had wrong gear. Wrong converter. 100 less cubes. Way to big of a cam . Bent valves. A cam 16 degrees off . Lol runs pretty good considering

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Post  nuclearcobra on October 8th 2014, 10:21 pm

Well then might as well have a blast with it while the tracks still open and maybe over the winter look into it cause its got more in it than that , and like already said put a stroker in that block and hang on , my cobra 2 in my avatar runs 10.81 at 121 mph with a 1.37 60' on a 125 shot of nitrous with a bone stock 5.0 from a 86 Lincoln Lsc I got from the junk yard , it even smokes slightly , I never found out how many miles were on it , anyway I put those jegs/kaase canted valve aluminum heads on it a small comp 292 magnum flat hyd cam 244@.050 and 534 lift , a 650 dp carb , victor jr intake , nothing ported , carb outta the box , it is lighter at 3025 with me in it but still 10.81 , that's why I say you got more in that thing, its worth tearing it down and looking , Call Lem at BF Evans Ford and he'll get ya the right gasket kit this winter. These guys on here have been more than happy to help and steer ya in the right direction like they have for a whole bunch of us in here. Forget low 11's and maybe high 10's you'll be way faster than that Very Happy
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Post  linearfab on October 8th 2014, 11:36 pm

nuclearcobra wrote:Well then might as well have a blast with it while the tracks still open and maybe over the winter look into it cause its got more in it than that , and like already said put a stroker in that block and hang on , my cobra 2 in my avatar runs 10.81 at 121 mph with a 1.37 60' on a 125 shot of nitrous with a bone stock 5.0 from a 86 Lincoln Lsc I got from the junk yard , it even smokes slightly , I never found out how many miles were on it , anyway I put those jegs/kaase canted valve aluminum heads on it a small comp 292 magnum flat hyd cam 244@.050 and 534 lift , a 650 dp carb , victor jr intake , nothing ported , carb outta the box , it is lighter at 3025 with me in it but still 10.81 , that's why I say you got more in that thing, its worth tearing it down and looking , Call Lem at BF Evans Ford and he'll get ya the right gasket kit this winter. These guys on here have been more than happy to help and steer ya in the right direction like they have for a whole bunch of us in here. Forget low 11's and maybe high 10's you'll be way faster than that Very Happy
 


  went from 70 jet to a 74 jet  in the primaries  . went  11.33  117 . picked  up  over a tenth  and  1 mph  in just a jet change .   34 degrees  timing  ..  leaving at 1800rpm    1.61  60'  .  im happy with that  for now  .  I had the cam ground  with the intention of running   200hp   worth of  n02    that's also the reason we  have the 3.89s and  he  tighter converter  ... I think on a  200 itll wake  up   real nice  . .  ill  try n  degree  the cam  this  weekend   if it checks  out ok  im gunna spray it .  also  gotta remember  this is  in  an old 57 fairlane 500  full interior  car  . damn  near  3800 lbs  like I said going through the traps  1000 rpm lower than  my shift point


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Post  FalconEh on October 8th 2014, 11:42 pm

linearfab wrote: U guys all said . It had wrong gear. Wrong converter. 100 less cubes. Way to big of a cam . Bent valves.  A cam 16 degrees off  .   Lol  runs pretty good considering

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Post  460bronco on October 9th 2014, 12:07 am

Sounds like it's running great! cheers  Spray the house down!
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Post  linearfab on October 9th 2014, 12:30 am

460bronco wrote:Sounds like it's running great! cheers  Spray the house down!

I had a real nice 2 stage NX plate set up for It but I sold it . should hung on to it .

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Post  nuclearcobra on October 9th 2014, 7:49 am

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nuclearcobra wrote:Well then might as well have a blast with it while the tracks still open and maybe over the winter look into it cause its got more in it than that , and like already said put a stroker in that block and hang on , my cobra 2 in my avatar runs 10.81 at 121 mph with a 1.37 60' on a 125 shot of nitrous with a bone stock 5.0 from a 86 Lincoln Lsc I got from the junk yard , it even smokes slightly , I never found out how many miles were on it , anyway I put those jegs/kaase canted valve aluminum heads on it a small comp 292 magnum flat hyd cam 244@.050 and 534 lift , a 650 dp carb , victor jr intake , nothing ported , carb outta the box , it is lighter at 3025 with me in it but still 10.81 , that's why I say you got more in that thing, its worth tearing it down and looking , Call Lem at BF Evans Ford and he'll get ya the right gasket kit this winter. These guys on here have been more than happy to help and steer ya in the right direction like they have for a whole bunch of us in here. Forget low 11's and maybe high 10's you'll be way faster than that Very Happy
 


  went from 70 jet to a 74 jet  in the primaries  . went  11.33  117 . picked  up  over a tenth  and  1 mph  in just a jet change .   34 degrees  timing  ..  leaving at 1800rpm    1.61  60'  .  im happy with that  for now  .  I had the cam ground  with the intention of running   200hp   worth of  n02    that's also the reason we  have the 3.89s and  he  tighter converter  ... I think on a  200 itll wake  up   real nice  . .  ill  try n  degree  the cam  this  weekend   if it checks  out ok  im gunna spray it .  also  gotta remember  this is  in  an old 57 fairlane 500  full interior  car  . damn  near  3800 lbs  like I said going through the traps  1000 rpm lower than  my shift point


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Post  nuclearcobra on October 9th 2014, 8:35 am

I mean really man what the hell are you coming on here whining about your crappy running combo so you say and asking for some opinions and help and have all these guys scratching there heads trying to figure this out for you and you've been mostly negative and argumentative about the answers and act like their picking your combo apart for the hell of it when we were all just trying to figure out what could be wrong as to help you go faster , heck you were even upset with comp and bullet for grinding you the wrong cams , and now finally all of a sudden you remember to tell everybody its a Nos cam and that's why we wanted that converter and rear gear, Like I already said REALLY , I mean go waist somebody else's time next time around, if you would've said all this in the first place instead of 12 pages later , I'm sure your answers would've been its fine put the bottle on it and go.
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Post  IDT-572 on October 9th 2014, 9:01 am

nuclearcobra wrote:I mean really man what the hell are you coming on here whining about your crappy running combo so you say and asking for some opinions and help and have all these guys scratching there heads trying to figure this out for you and you've been mostly negative and argumentative about the answers and act like their picking your combo apart for the hell of it when we were all just trying to figure out what could be wrong as to help you go faster , heck you were even upset with comp and bullet for grinding you the wrong cams , and now finally all of a sudden you remember to tell everybody its a Nos cam and that's why we wanted that converter and rear gear, Like I already said REALLY , I mean go waist somebody else's time next time around, if you would've said all this in the first place instead of 12 pages later , I'm sure your answers would've been its fine put the bottle on it and go.  

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Post  linearfab on October 9th 2014, 9:20 am

Its cool man. . Ill take my "mysteryMotor"  And my negative attitude else where .

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