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Re: Roller lifter pushrod seat

Post  kim on January 23rd 2015, 4:29 pm

Need to call Jerry back and see if you can talk to his supervisor. .

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Re: Roller lifter pushrod seat

Post  the Coug on January 23rd 2015, 4:48 pm

take you an old push rod lap the dang thing in and go with it not a big deal, stop making a mountain out of a mole hill....
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Re: Roller lifter pushrod seat

Post  68galaxie on January 23rd 2015, 6:00 pm

I am making a big deal over nothing? Really?
When I pay $800.00 for a set of lifters i expect that they are machined correctly.
Would you run the lifter with the mis-machined seat? I shouldn't have to fix new sh_t.
I have never heard of a push rod seat lapping tool. I assume the seat is very hard as well.
Do you have a picture of one?
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Re: Roller lifter pushrod seat

Post  the Coug on January 23rd 2015, 6:49 pm

just take a push rod and get some 800 or 1200 grit compound and put it in the cup and take the push rod in hand and roll it between your hands it's not Rocket Science, after you get the desired cup wash it thoroughly to get the grit washed off.....


I take this stuff as race parts not everything is perfect it all needs work to make it right...
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Post  Lem Evans on January 23rd 2015, 7:35 pm

68galaxie wrote:I am making a big deal over nothing? Really?
When I pay $800.00 for a set of lifters i expect that they are machined correctly.
Would you run the lifter with the mis-machined seat? I shouldn't have to fix new sh_t.
I have never heard of a push rod seat lapping tool. I assume the seat is very hard as well.
Do you have a picture of one?

Here is an option.....ship the fucked up pare of lifters to "Jerry/Crower" and attach a note instructing someone to stick them up their ass. Go buy another pair of lifters from another source and move on Wink

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Post  cool40 on January 23rd 2015, 8:36 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
68galaxie wrote:I am making a big deal over nothing? Really?
When I pay $800.00 for a set of lifters i expect that they are machined correctly.
Would you run the lifter with the mis-machined seat? I shouldn't have to fix new sh_t.
I have never heard of a push rod seat lapping tool. I assume the seat is very hard as well.
Do you have a picture of one?

Here is an option.....ship the fucked up pare of lifters to "Jerry/Crower" and attach a note instructing someone to stick them up their ass. Go buy another pair of lifters from another source and move on Wink
I like this plan best! I have crowers in my engine and have ran lots of parts from them with good results. This kind of customer service would make me go elsewhere.
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Re: Roller lifter pushrod seat

Post  bbf-falcon on January 23rd 2015, 9:15 pm

And I would also tell Coug to stick his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes

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Post  the Coug on January 23rd 2015, 10:00 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:And I would also tell Coug to stick his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes


is that just because your not smart enough to work one or you didn't think of it? why don't you just say x2 or 3 so your post count can go up,,, with all that useless info you give..... it is what it is it is a race part I find everything needs checked and most likely fixed....
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Post  QtrWarrior on January 23rd 2015, 10:11 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:And I would also tell Coug to stick his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes

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Post  the Coug on January 23rd 2015, 10:17 pm

QtrWarrior wrote:
bbf-falcon wrote:And I would also tell Coug to stick his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes

X 2


why don't you guys just go to the bar and grill and piss and moan in the Coug Thread....
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Post  cool40 on January 23rd 2015, 10:36 pm

the Coug wrote:
QtrWarrior wrote:
bbf-falcon wrote:And I would also tell Coug to stick, his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes

X 2


why don't you guys just go to the bar and grill and piss and moan in the Coug Thread....
its more fun here where you can see it. sunny
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Re: Roller lifter pushrod seat

Post  FalconEh on January 23rd 2015, 10:39 pm

I would email the picture to the competitor your are thinking of, and ask them for an independent evaluation if it appears to be a manufacturing defect or an industry standard you could tell them you will not dilvuldge the manfacturer, but would like their opinion and what they would or would not do... before I emailed Crower back...Again with the attached response Rolling Eyes

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Re: Roller lifter pushrod seat

Post  QtrWarrior on January 23rd 2015, 10:48 pm

the Coug wrote:
QtrWarrior wrote:
bbf-falcon wrote:And I would also tell Coug to stick his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes

X 2


why don't you guys just go to the bar and grill and piss and moan in the Coug Thread....

Because I'd rather do it here...
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Post  dirt_worker on January 24th 2015, 2:32 am

bbf-falcon wrote:And I would also tell Coug to stick his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes

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Post  the Coug on January 24th 2015, 9:52 am

dirt_worker wrote:
bbf-falcon wrote:And I would also tell Coug to stick his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes

X3



Oh yeah another one of those intellectual ones.
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Post  QtrWarrior on January 24th 2015, 10:01 am

the Coug wrote:
dirt_worker wrote:
bbf-falcon wrote:And I would also tell Coug to stick his Lapping tool up his ass too. Rolling Eyes

X3



Oh yeah another one of those intellectual ones.

What's a matter Coug ???

You can dish it out but not take it ??

And to get back on topic..
If I bought NEW lifters and it was hosed up..
I'd be raising Hell too.. New parts , like lifters shouldn't have to be "massaged"... Dumb azz..
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Re: Roller lifter pushrod seat

Post  the Coug on January 24th 2015, 10:24 am

It's a Race part, it Happens. If he's not getting any where with Jerry. Fix the dang lifter and go on with life, it's not like it's Broken. sometimes Quality control misses stuff.

I was just giving the guy a way to cure the Problem. I have had to lap stuff in to get the correct seating I wished for Whats the Big Freakin deal?????? then the PP start Jabbing so I jabbed back, At least I gave a way to cure the Problem thats more than they ever give...

Why is lapping so hard? I check all my surfaces and if not like I wish they get lapped to where I like them.

I keep lapping compound in my box, I keep a carborandum wet stone in my box and use them quite often cuz surfaces are not allways up to snuff, or to take of nicks and fix scratches and true things up, I thought everyone does this? apparently not....some things are just above some peoples realm of understanding and capabilities... JMHO anything that has to be assembled ALLWAYS needs checked....
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Post  QtrWarrior on January 24th 2015, 10:31 am

Have you ever tried to Lap a heat treat hardened steel part ??

I have, as part of my job, and it's would not the easiest thing for someone that doesn't do it all the time...
And taking out THOSE chatter marks won't happen with any lapping compound.
AND, if it was manufactured that way, I still shouldn't have to do it in the first place..
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Post  the Coug on January 24th 2015, 10:56 am

QtrWarrior wrote:Have you ever tried to Lap a heat treat hardened steel part ??.



YES I have it's part of my Job also.....I see this stuff all the Time... Shocked I fix it and go on....
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Post  dfree383 on January 24th 2015, 12:20 pm

68galaxie wrote:Well I have been waiting a long time to get a response from Crower.
I called on the telephone and chatter with Jerry. He said to send him pictures of the lifter seat. I did. December 4, 2014.
I waited a week and sent him another email asking if he received the pictures I sent (as I had not had any response). His reply in capital letters: YES I SENT IT TO THE MACHINE SHOP

I guess its Crower's way of saying PFO?
I have now waited another 6 weeks no response. I just sent off another email to Jerry.
A very polite one as I do not want to piss him off again.

I know Crower components are usually well made, but when you do have a problem who do you call or what do you do? get lawyers involved over a $100.00 pair of lifters?

WTF? Really, that is the product support one gets from Crower? I feel like throwing the other 7 pairs of lifters in the garbage and purchasing something else.

Crower has had some major changes in the last few years, from my understanding the Crower family is no longer involved in the business at all, it's been sold off.

Coug does have a point.... Like it or not.
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Post  Lem Evans on January 24th 2015, 12:58 pm

dfree383 wrote:
68galaxie wrote:Well I have been waiting a long time to get a response from Crower.
I called on the telephone and chatter with Jerry. He said to send him pictures of the lifter seat. I did. December 4, 2014.
I waited a week and sent him another email asking if he received the pictures I sent (as I had not had any response). His reply in capital letters: YES I SENT IT TO THE MACHINE SHOP

I guess its Crower's way of saying PFO?
I have now waited another 6 weeks no response. I just sent off another email to Jerry.
A very polite one as I do not want to piss him off again.

I know Crower components are usually well made, but when you do have a problem who do you call or what do you do? get lawyers involved over a $100.00 pair of lifters?

WTF? Really, that is the product support one gets from Crower? I feel like throwing the other 7 pairs of lifters in the garbage and purchasing something else.

Crower has had some major changes in the last few years, from my understanding the Crower family is no longer involved in the business at all, it's been sold off.

Coug does have a point.... Like it or not.  


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Post  dfree383 on January 24th 2015, 1:42 pm

Got to be a able to hook everything up nice and smooth..... lol!
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Post  68galaxie on January 24th 2015, 4:14 pm

Thanks guys!

I guess it is the new way of doing business in corporate America!
Take over a family run company with a decent track record and then MAXIMIZE every possible return dollar. It works for the short term quarterly profit figures. However, posts like this one to show lack of product support and reduced quality control of a once great company will hopefully make others aware of the new internal workings at Crower. I have had good parts from Crower in the past. I will never purchase anything from this company ever again.

There are other alternatives for all Crower parts. I have heard good things about Morel bushing type and the ultra pro needle type lifters.

I can't wait to get the 502 back on the road. Many updates and changes happening. Cylinder head and intake manifold work, and a new Lem cam.

Cheers everyone.
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Post  the Coug on January 24th 2015, 11:08 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
dfree383 wrote:
68galaxie wrote:Well I have been waiting a long time to get a response from Crower.
I called on the telephone and chatter with Jerry. He said to send him pictures of the lifter seat. I did. December 4, 2014.
I waited a week and sent him another email asking if he received the pictures I sent (as I had not had any response). His reply in capital letters: YES I SENT IT TO THE MACHINE SHOP

I guess its Crower's way of saying PFO?
I have now waited another 6 weeks no response. I just sent off another email to Jerry.
A very polite one as I do not want to piss him off again.

I know Crower components are usually well made, but when you do have a problem who do you call or what do you do? get lawyers involved over a $100.00 pair of lifters?

WTF? Really, that is the product support one gets from Crower? I feel like throwing the other 7 pairs of lifters in the garbage and purchasing something else.

Crower has had some major changes in the last few years, from my understanding the Crower family is no longer involved in the business at all, it's been sold off.

Coug does have a point.... Like it or not.  


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Post  richter69 on January 25th 2015, 12:35 pm

update?
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