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Post  460lightning on October 23rd 2014, 10:52 pm

Hi guys I bought a 93 F150 Lightning Roller. I decided to put a 460 in it.
It was a rebuilt motor bored .030 over, with headstuds comp cam 260h and d3ve heads with hump removed. Had double roller timing set in straight up configuration.

I ditched the heads and Bought some Edelbrock Rpm 75 cc heads.

So far here is what I have got. A 460 from a 78 Lincoln
Two c6's One rebuilt with a long tailshaft and one not rebuilt with short tailshaft.  They guy said he thought it had a shiftkit in it. Is there anyway I can tell if I pull off the pan?? I believe it has a new stock stall speed converter in it because it looks newer and it has no markings on it.

Edelbrodk Rpm 75cc heads
Believe to be proform roller rockers. They are blue with no markings.
It has been bored .30 over with KB 137 flat top pistons
It has double roller timing chain in the straight up configeration
 It has head studs ( I should be able to reuse these correct?? )
It has new  Dooe passenger car rods
I put a new melling standard volume oil pump In it.
I put a ford motorsports rear sump oil pan, because the front sump wouldn't fit.
It came with an Edelbrock performer intake and an edelbrock 750 cfm carb number 1407
I started recurving the distributor, I swapped it to the 13 slot and found that my vacuum advance canister leaks so I need a new one.  (any suggestions)
I need to get some 3/8 pushrods and figure out the correct length

I believe my compression ratio will be close to 10:3.1
Based on
4.39 bore  
3.85 stroke
75cc heads
2.5cc valve relief dish
.021 deck clearance (used a dial indicator to achieve TDC)
.041 head gasket

Can I run 93 pump gas if I put in a big enough cam.
What I really need help with is figuring out what cam to run. Should I call someone for a custom cam? If so who do you recommend.

What stall speed do you recommend. The truck weighed 4100 without a big block in it. The aluminum heads will offset some of that?
Believe rear end gear to be 3.08:1 But I have to pull cover to verify. Had 4.10 but were supposedly replaced.


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Post  dfree383 on October 23rd 2014, 10:54 pm

What are you using it for ?
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Post  460lightning on October 23rd 2014, 11:00 pm

Oops I forgot. I knew I would forget something. I would like to build it for the street and occasional strip. But as much power as I can and still keep it drivable on pump gas.

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Post  dfree383 on October 23rd 2014, 11:10 pm

Ditch the performer intake get an RPM. Put at least an 850 or better yet a 950-1000 Holley type carb.

Best bang for the buck come from a mechanical flat tapper cam. Specs will very depending mainly on your gearing and convertor choices.

Your compression at 10.3 is fine, the eddy heads will benefit from some bowl and short turn work.

It also be a good idea to either 0 deck the block or try to get some head gaskets to get you about .043 total clearance.

Good headers and mufflers are a top priority, look for something in the 1 7/8 range. On the headers and at least a 3" dual exhaust with something like magnaflow mufflers.
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Post  460lightning on October 23rd 2014, 11:13 pm

Thanks, Do you mean polish the chambers, or pull the valves and port or polish the bowl.  What do you mean by short turn work.
You said, It also be a good idea to either 0 deck the block or try to get some head gaskets to get you about .043 total clearance.
So do you mean use a thinner head gasket to achieve the .043 clearance. Is that for Quench? I don't want to do any block work unless it would be necessary.

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Post  dfree383 on October 24th 2014, 9:21 am

Yes work on the bowls, the story turn is the intake side of the bowl up into the bottom of the intake port.

Yes the .043 clearance is for quench.
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Post  gt350hr on October 24th 2014, 11:34 am

460 lightening,
        Ford built several prototype 460 powered lightening trucks. The engines featured a GT40 tubular upper intake on a custom made lower. The engine was called the 460 BOSS Truck engine.  I have the complete top end assembly from one of these '93 prototype engines including the wire harness. The manifold cover says 460 BOSS Truck as well. I have esed the short block in adifferent application. If you have any interest PM me as it's all up for sale. The engine had dyno time only. The valves still have ink marks for the cylinders on them. I got the engine from Ford.

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Post  Minnesota_Duane on October 24th 2014, 12:48 pm

gt350hr wrote:460 lightening,
        Ford built several prototype 460 powered lightening trucks. The engines featured a GT40 tubular upper intake on a custom made lower. The engine was called the 460 BOSS Truck engine.  I have the complete top end assembly from one of these '93 prototype engines including the wire harness. The manifold cover says 460 BOSS Truck as well. I have esed the short block in adifferent application. If you have any interest PM me as it's all up for sale. The engine had dyno time only. The valves still have ink marks for the cylinders on them. I got the engine from Ford.
Out of curiosity what would it take to buy this? Do you also have the computer?
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Post  dfree383 on October 24th 2014, 2:19 pm

Blake had a set up from that program too.
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Post  IDT-572 on October 24th 2014, 2:41 pm

dfree383 wrote:Blake had a set up from that program too.

Still have it............. Looks Cool
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Post  torino501 on October 24th 2014, 10:16 pm

IDT-572 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:Blake had a set up from that program too.

Still have it.............  Looks Cool
pics or it never happened

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Post  bbf-falcon on October 24th 2014, 10:50 pm

torino501 wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:Blake had a set up from that program too.

Still have it.............  Looks Cool
pics or it never happened

Yea,i'm callin B...S... on that one w/o pic's. Laughing

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Post  460lightning on October 24th 2014, 11:30 pm

I would also love some Pics.

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Post  460lightning on October 25th 2014, 4:20 pm

Stupid question but will the performer intake and the 750 cm carb really hold it back a lot? I will defiantly ditch the ones I have I'd it will be night and day. what horse power do you think I would have with either set up just to help me make my decision.Of course I realize the horsepower would be a guess. estimate!

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Post  dfree383 on October 25th 2014, 9:34 pm

Performer with an eddy 750 would probably be down 40+ hp over a 1000 on an rpm IMO
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Post  460lightning on October 25th 2014, 10:05 pm

Holy crap!!! People pay tons of money just to add 40 HP to their cars. I think I might have to start shoping. Really stuck on what camshaft to choose. That's whats really holding up my build right now. Well that and money, HAHA.
Who would you contact about a cam if you were me. Had some advice on a lunati voodoo cam. Would you choose a box cam, or get a custom one.
If you think a custom one would benefit me, Please advise me what company you think I should contact.

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Post  dfree383 on October 25th 2014, 10:26 pm

Randy Malick is a good guy at picking / specing flat tapper cams he's a dealer for a couple of the cam manufactures. He's on here as RM Competition

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Post  gt350hr on October 27th 2014, 12:19 pm

torino501 wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:Blake had a set up from that program too.

Still have it.............  Looks Cool
pics or it never happened

bbf-falcon wrote:
torino501 wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:Blake had a set up from that program too.

Still have it.............  Looks Cool
pics or it never happened

Yea,i'm callin B...S... on that one w/o pic's. Laughing


There are MANY experimental Ford parts I'm sure the two of you are not aware of. I have been tracking stuff like this for 50 years and have found many incredible parts. "Factory" 429 wedge aluminum heads from '69, low profile aluminum 4 barrel intake also from '69. 429 wedge shaft mounted rockers from '69 using 427 FE rockers and "Jessel like" ( not yet invented LOL) stands , are but a few of the rare parts I've found. I understand you're skepticism , I was amazed when I found it too. It is real.

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Post  460lightning on October 27th 2014, 1:35 pm

Please post some Pics.

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Post  lghting94 on October 27th 2014, 1:49 pm

gt350hr wrote:
torino501 wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:Blake had a set up from that program too.

Still have it.............  Looks Cool
pics or it never happened

bbf-falcon wrote:
torino501 wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:Blake had a set up from that program too.

Still have it.............  Looks Cool
pics or it never happened

Yea,i'm callin B...S... on that one w/o pic's. Laughing


       There are MANY experimental Ford parts I'm sure the two of you are not aware of. I have been tracking stuff like this for 50 years and have found many incredible parts.  "Factory"  429 wedge aluminum heads from '69, low profile aluminum 4 barrel intake also from '69. 429 wedge shaft mounted rockers from '69 using 427 FE rockers and "Jessel like" ( not yet invented LOL) stands , are but a few of the rare parts I've found. I understand you're skepticism , I was amazed when I found it too. It is real.

Its not that we don't believe the parts existed we just want to see the pics. Also I have a 94 Lightning that is without engine right now so switching it to a fuel injected performance 460 is peaking my interest.
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Post  res0rli9 on October 27th 2014, 1:53 pm

around here No pic's= it ant real......... No video= it didn't run the # Smile

come on Show us that Cool stuff

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Post  dfree383 on October 27th 2014, 2:52 pm

res0rli9 wrote:around here No pic's= it ant real......... No video= it didn't run the # Smile

come on Show us that Cool stuff

X2 we like part porn!
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Post  cool40 on October 27th 2014, 7:14 pm

X4! I let a 68 fastback get away because i didn't know at the time what it was.I had the engine code "p"but no mustang book I had could tell me what it was. It had an FE in it but sure wasn't a 390! Wink
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Post  torino501 on October 27th 2014, 10:12 pm

this is like area"51" top secrete sr-71 skunk works stuff....!!!! I wanna see it !!!
damit....

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Post  460lightning on November 4th 2014, 11:38 pm

Found out I have 3:55 gears. I think these will be alright. What do you think??

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