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Post  garys gt on December 18th 2014, 12:48 pm

514 pump gas motor 10.5 to 1 compression. cam is solid flat tappet 256/266 @.050 and 589/615 lift. heads are pro comp castings with manley 2.19 and 1.71 back cut valves. bowls have been smoothed out to remove casting imperfections. 2900lbs car with 4.10 gear and 28 inch tire. c6 trans with 3500 stall. car will be street/ strip mostly strip. give me some options on intakes that work best to worst. thanks

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Post  dfree383 on December 18th 2014, 2:42 pm

Victor with a 1050 or 1150 dominator.
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Post  the Coug on December 18th 2014, 2:44 pm

with your choice in heads it really doesn't matter the heads will be the down fall, or limiter a victor will be more than you can use....
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Post  richter69 on December 18th 2014, 6:10 pm

Coug thinks your heads are junk.....
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Post  garys gt on December 18th 2014, 6:13 pm

the Coug wrote:with your choice in heads it really doesn't matter the heads will be the down fall, or limiter a victor will be more than you can use....
Yea heads are not that great but I got them bare with the 514 short block in a trade.

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Post  garys gt on December 18th 2014, 6:14 pm

richter69 wrote:Coug thinks your heads are junk.....
Yea there probably junk.

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Post  garys gt on December 18th 2014, 6:20 pm

dfree383 wrote:Victor with a 1050 or 1150 dominator.
would it be beneficial to port match the heads to match the intake. Or just leave the miss match.

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Post  the Coug on December 18th 2014, 6:44 pm

garys gt wrote:
dfree383 wrote:Victor with a 1050 or 1150 dominator.
would it be beneficial to port match the heads to match the intake. Or just leave the miss match.


it won't hurt anything you do to those heads but I think with the way they flow I would get a 1050 I think an 1150 is to much...
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Post  rmcomprandy on December 18th 2014, 7:35 pm

I would do a "Victor port match" to the head and run it.

The heads CAN be decent performance heads with a LOT of work performed BUT getting a better head will have less cost attached than paying for the large amount of work to be done to those.

If you are capable to do ALL the work on those heads yourself, it just matters how much you own time is worth.

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Post  garys gt on December 18th 2014, 7:54 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:I would do a "Victor port match" to the head and run it.

The heads CAN be decent performance heads with a LOT of work performed BUT getting a better head will have less cost attached than paying for the large amount of work to be done to those.

If you are capable to do ALL the work on those heads yourself, it just matters how much you own time is worth.
what would be the best intake gaskets to use.

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Post  the Coug on December 18th 2014, 7:56 pm

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Post  rmcomprandy on December 18th 2014, 8:02 pm

garys gt wrote:
what would be the best intake gaskets to use.

Personally ... Fel-Pro #1231S-3 are the gaskets I use and recommend.

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Post  quick 52 on December 18th 2014, 9:24 pm

garys gt wrote:514 pump gas motor 10.5 to 1 compression. cam is solid flat tappet 256/266 @.050 and 589/615 lift. heads are pro comp castings with manley 2.19 and 1.71 back cut valves. bowls have been smoothed out to remove casting imperfections. 2900lbs car with 4.10 gear and 28 inch tire. c6 trans with 3500 stall. car will be street/ strip mostly strip. give me some options on intakes that work best to worst. thanks
What type car is it.. what are you wanting to ET... How well do you want the car to perform on street Idle, sound, comfort..

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Post  garys gt on December 18th 2014, 9:33 pm

quick 52 wrote:
garys gt wrote:514 pump gas motor 10.5 to 1 compression. cam is solid flat tappet 256/266 @.050 and 589/615 lift. heads are pro comp castings with manley 2.19 and 1.71 back cut valves. bowls have been smoothed out to remove casting imperfections. 2900lbs car with 4.10 gear and 28 inch tire. c6 trans with 3500 stall. car will be street/ strip mostly strip. give me some options on intakes that work best to worst. thanks
What type car is it.. what are you wanting to ET... How well do you want the car to perform on street Idle, sound, comfort..
it's a fox body coupe with near no interior and probably using race seat so not much comfort. Think it should have a nice sound. The stall should absorb enough of the cam to drive on the road a little. Don't know how fast the car will be. Just a guess would be 6.50 in the 1/8 mile. What would you think.

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Post  quick 52 on December 18th 2014, 10:38 pm

6.50 is around 10 teens in the 1/4... That pretty stout for a mild build... There is always nitrous

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Post  dfree383 on December 18th 2014, 11:18 pm

IMO mid to upper 10's if you're on your game low 11's if you're off.

Low 10's will need more air and compression.
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Post  quick 52 on December 19th 2014, 4:27 pm

If your motor puts out 500 hp and I believe it will and probably more... and your suspension is working at lease 1.48 60'.. You should be mid 10's put 150 HP. of nitrous 9.80 to 10.0

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Post  the Coug on December 20th 2014, 6:10 am

quick 52 wrote:If your motor puts out 500 hp and I believe it will and probably more...  and your suspension is working at lease 1.48 60'.. You should be mid 10's put 150 HP. of nitrous 9.80 to 10.0


How do you see This? I knew a guy that has a 524 Pro Comp headed engine with a bigger Roller cam and a victor and 1050 in a tube Chassis car, only run 10.7 with those heads and He had a lot more compression....
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Post  quick 52 on December 20th 2014, 10:52 am

the Coug wrote:
quick 52 wrote:If your motor puts out 500 hp and I believe it will and probably more...  and your suspension is working at lease 1.48 60'.. You should be mid 10's put 150 HP. of nitrous 9.80 to 10.0


How do you see This? I knew a guy that has a 524 Pro Comp headed engine with a bigger Roller cam and a victor and 1050 in a tube Chassis car, only run 10.7 with those heads and He had a lot more compression....
Those heads must be terrible then. I don't have any experience with them but would think they would perform as well as a iron head. And if a 514 can make 500hp and will 60' it should run mid 10's in a 2900 pound car

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Post  kim on December 20th 2014, 1:06 pm

the Coug wrote:
quick 52 wrote:If your motor puts out 500 hp and I believe it will and probably more...  and your suspension is working at lease 1.48 60'.. You should be mid 10's put 150 HP. of nitrous 9.80 to 10.0


How do you see This? I knew a guy that has a 524 Pro Comp headed engine with a bigger Roller cam and a victor and 1050 in a tube Chassis car, only run 10.7 with those heads and He had a lot more compression....

Some people can sink the titanic, others can get a canoe across the Atlantic. Two identical builds in two different garages will often come out with very different results. Some people can tune carbs, adjust timing, others can buy an engine and expect to race. Many racers have little to no clue to what's happening under the hood, or along the suspension, they are just damn good at stab and steer. Others are fantastic with all the bits and widgets that make the car work..... they suck at stab and steer... then there are the really rare few, that know both. They win division and national championships.

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Post  butterbean on December 20th 2014, 2:10 pm

your engine combo with a port matched Victor and a 1050 Dommy and @ 2900 lbs it should run 6.70/6.80's in the 1/8th and 10.50/10.60's in the 1/4 but with a little more compression and a roller cam it could go 1/2 second quicker in the 1/4 JMO good luck
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Post  quick 52 on December 20th 2014, 2:43 pm

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quick 52 wrote:If your motor puts out 500 hp and I believe it will and probably more...  and your suspension is working at lease 1.48 60'.. You should be mid 10's put 150 HP. of nitrous 9.80 to 10.0


How do you see This? I knew a guy that has a 524 Pro Comp headed engine with a bigger Roller cam and a victor and 1050 in a tube Chassis car, only run 10.7 with those heads and He had a lot more compression....

Some people can sink the titanic, others can get a canoe across the Atlantic.  Two identical builds in two different garages will often come out with very different results.  Some people can tune carbs, adjust timing, others can buy an engine and expect to race.  Many racers have little to no clue to what's happening under the hood, or along the suspension, they are just damn good at stab and steer.   Others are fantastic with all the bits and widgets that make the car work.....  they suck at stab and I'll say that your right on with that statement... When I did DW there were guys rebuilding there car's on the side of the road an others giving up over nothing

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Post  the Coug on December 20th 2014, 10:28 pm

Hey if you guys think they are so good you should each go buy a set and save all that money cuz you are such good engine builders... I bet ya'll could get way more hp than anyone ever has.... you seem to know so much about it...
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Post  dfree383 on December 20th 2014, 11:27 pm

the Coug wrote:Hey if you guys think they are so good you should each go buy a set and save all that money cuz you are such good engine builders... I bet ya'll could get way more hp than anyone ever has.... you seem to know so much about it...

I know enough about them to spend my money in better heads.... But hey the guy has them and wants to use them..... No skin off anyone here.
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Post  quick 52 on December 21st 2014, 10:29 am

the Coug wrote:Hey if you guys think they are so good you should each go buy a set and save all that money cuz you are such good engine builders... I bet ya'll could get way more hp than anyone ever has.... you seem to know so much about it...
Not saying I'm a engine builder or tuner... Did say if he can make 500hp with those heads and have a good 60' in a 2900lbs car it should run mid 10's and hose will wake it up to 9.80 to 10.0

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