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Post  rocketpony on July 30th 2015, 8:06 am

Car is nearing completion. So it's mainly a drag car, basically doesn't see any street use. It has jus an alternator . So jus I run a serpentine or v belt?
Pros n cons of both?
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Re: Serpentine or v belt?

Post  dfree383 on July 30th 2015, 9:26 am

V belt is probably the cheapest
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Post  jasonf on July 30th 2015, 11:08 pm

rocketpony wrote:Car is nearing completion. So it's mainly a drag car, basically doesn't see any street use. It has jus an alternator . So jus I run a serpentine or v belt?
Pros n cons of both?
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Well to run a poly Vee belt (it's not technically a serpentine ) you need aftermarket pulleys or a set of truck pulleys. Below is what the stock pulleys look like and they can actually be hard to come by sometimes. They are also 2 deep which would be unnecessary if all you need is an alternator. You would also have to make a bracket for just an alternator if that is all you have. The vbelt pulleys would be lighter if that is an issue. Plus aluminum v-belt pulleys are more readily available.

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Post  rocketpony on July 30th 2015, 11:46 pm

Sorry I should have said car only has altanator

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Post  Mark Miller on July 31st 2015, 12:23 am

rocketpony wrote:Car is nearing completion. So it's mainly a drag car, basically doesn't see any street use. It has jus an alternator . So jus I run a serpentine or v belt?
Pros n cons of both?
Thanks

Electric Water Pump or belt driven?FYI 5.0 Mustang serpentine crank pulley and water pump pulley bolts onto 460.I have them on my 460 in my Fox Body 89 Mustang.The only thing i had to do to the 5.0 water pump pulley was ream the center hole out.

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Post  Coupe Devil on July 31st 2015, 6:59 am

Mark Miller wrote:
rocketpony wrote:Car is nearing completion. So it's mainly a drag car, basically doesn't see any street use. It has jus an alternator . So jus I run a serpentine or v belt?
Pros n cons of both?
Thanks

Electric Water Pump or belt driven?FYI 5.0 Mustang serpentine crank pulley and water pump pulley bolts onto 460.I have them on my 460 in my Fox Body 89 Mustang.The only thing i had to do to the 5.0 water pump pulley was ream the center hole out.

Good to know. I have the pulleys to set mine up that way. Just have to figure the p.s. bracket out for now until I can get a manual rack.
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Post  jasonf on July 31st 2015, 7:14 pm

rocketpony wrote:Sorry I should have said car only has altanator

You did say just alternator but that is the only picture I had of the truck pulleys.

I will have to look into the Mustang pulleys.
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Post  Mark Miller on August 1st 2015, 12:46 am

Coupe Devil wrote:
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rocketpony wrote:Car is nearing completion. So it's mainly a drag car, basically doesn't see any street use. It has jus an alternator . So jus I run a serpentine or v belt?
Pros n cons of both?
Thanks

Electric Water Pump or belt driven?FYI 5.0 Mustang serpentine crank pulley and water pump pulley bolts onto 460.I have them on my 460 in my Fox Body 89 Mustang.The only thing i had to do to the 5.0 water pump pulley was ream the center hole out.

Good to know. I have the pulleys to set mine up that way. Just have to figure the p.s. bracket out for now until I can get a manual rack.

I had power steering on mine till the rack started leaking.I have a manual rack now,so my belt is around the water pump pulley,crank pulley and alternator.I just put the 5.0 water pump pulley on over the July 4th weekend.

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Post  Coupe Devil on August 11th 2015, 7:52 am

Mark Miller wrote:
Coupe Devil wrote:
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rocketpony wrote:Car is nearing completion. So it's mainly a drag car, basically doesn't see any street use. It has jus an alternator . So jus I run a serpentine or v belt?
Pros n cons of both?
Thanks

Electric Water Pump or belt driven?FYI 5.0 Mustang serpentine crank pulley and water pump pulley bolts onto 460.I have them on my 460 in my Fox Body 89 Mustang.The only thing i had to do to the 5.0 water pump pulley was ream the center hole out.

Good to know. I have the pulleys to set mine up that way. Just have to figure the p.s. bracket out for now until I can get a manual rack.

I had power steering on mine till the rack started leaking.I have a manual rack now,so my belt is around the water pump pulley,crank pulley and alternator.I just put the 5.0 water pump pulley on over the July 4th weekend.

Do you have a picture of your tensioner / alt mount?
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Post  MustangBBF on August 11th 2015, 12:58 pm

Here is a picture of my serpentine street setup.

Has not been ran yet as I am working on exhaust. I home built this.

PS & Hydraboost/Alternator/Standard Rotation on belt for stock WP/Vacuum Pump with a GM tensioner.

Cheers,

https://i.servimg.com/u/f18/19/29/35/79/20150610.jpg

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Post  jasonf on August 11th 2015, 7:39 pm

MustangBBF wrote:Here is a picture of my serpentine street setup.

Has not been ran yet as I am working on exhaust. I home built this.

PS & Hydraboost/Alternator/Standard Rotation on belt for stock WP/Vacuum Pump with a GM tensioner.

Cheers,

https://i.servimg.com/u/f18/19/29/35/79/20150610.jpg

Nice, where is the A/C compressor? Very Happy

Which pulleys are those?
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Post  Mark Miller on August 12th 2015, 1:24 am

Coupe Devil wrote:
Mark Miller wrote:
Coupe Devil wrote:
Mark Miller wrote:
rocketpony wrote:Car is nearing completion. So it's mainly a drag car, basically doesn't see any street use. It has jus an alternator . So jus I run a serpentine or v belt?
Pros n cons of both?
Thanks

Electric Water Pump or belt driven?FYI 5.0 Mustang serpentine crank pulley and water pump pulley bolts onto 460.I have them on my 460 in my Fox Body 89 Mustang.The only thing i had to do to the 5.0 water pump pulley was ream the center hole out.

Good to know. I have the pulleys to set mine up that way. Just have to figure the p.s. bracket out for now until I can get a manual rack.

I had power steering on mine till the rack started leaking.I have a manual rack now,so my belt is around the water pump pulley,crank pulley and alternator.I just put the 5.0 water pump pulley on over the July 4th weekend.

Do you have a picture of your tensioner / alt mount?

I could e-mail you some if you would like me to,let me know.

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Post  Coupe Devil on August 12th 2015, 7:54 am

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Post  Mark Miller on August 13th 2015, 1:04 am

Coupe Devil wrote:Sure. Bradleyrj@hotmail.com

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I can't figure out how to email pictures on AOL now since i just have it for e-mail services.I'll see if i can download them onto photo bucket.

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Post  Hangman on August 13th 2015, 6:40 pm

MustangBBF wrote:Here is a picture of my serpentine street setup.

Has not been ran yet as I am working on exhaust. I home built this.

PS & Hydraboost/Alternator/Standard Rotation on belt for stock WP/Vacuum Pump with a GM tensioner.

Cheers,

https://i.servimg.com/u/f18/19/29/35/79/20150610.jpg



Just thinking here, but don't you want the tensioner on the other side?  The way it's sitting, it's got all the load from all the accessories, and it may be pulling on it too hard.  I built a similar set-up and have it on the lower left side, by the crank pully.  I've run mine and it works great.  Looks like we used the same tensioner too.



Sorry for the hi-jack.

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Post  rmcomprandy on August 13th 2015, 10:43 pm

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Just thinking here, but don't you want the tensioner on the other side?  The way it's sitting, it's got all the load from all the accessories, and it may be pulling on it too hard.  I built a similar set-up and have it on the lower left side, by the crank pully.  I've run mine and it works great.  Looks like we used the same tensioner too.



Sorry for the hi-jack.

This photo would need to be of a complete reverse rotation ENGINE for that to be true, (highly doubtful).
This crankshaft pulley, which does ALL the pulling, is not PULLING on the spring loaded tensioner at all.

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Post  Hangman on August 13th 2015, 11:35 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:

This photo would need to be of a complete reverse rotation ENGINE for that to be true, (highly doubtful).
This crankshaft pulley, which does ALL the pulling, is not PULLING on the spring loaded tensioner at all.

When I designed this system, I looked at a couple of aftermarket kits for big-blocks. I liked how Billet Specialties had everything arranged. Their kit is why I placed the tensioner where I did. Now, looking at their small-block kits, they have the tensioner on the other side. Mine seems to be working just fine, so I'm going to leave it alone. And the direction of the "push" of the tensioner matches a lot of the factory set-ups.

I think what you mean is that the belt is not pulling the tensioner in, making the belt tighter? If so, I've seen a lot going both directions too. Guess it doesn't really matter as long as it works.

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Post  MustangBBF on August 14th 2015, 8:17 am

The GM setup I pulled the tensioner off of was on the drivers side as well.

I ran out of real estate with the alternator and vacuum pump on the passenger side. The fox bodies are so tight its hard to fit everything.

I really, really hope it works on the drivers side. I spent a lot of time and $$ building that stupid plate just to have to scrap it.

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Post  Hangman on August 14th 2015, 12:15 pm

MustangBBF wrote:The GM setup I pulled the tensioner off of was on the drivers side as well.

I ran out of real estate with the alternator and vacuum pump on the passenger side. The fox bodies are so tight its hard to fit everything.

I really, really hope it works on the drivers side. I spent a lot of time and $$ building that stupid plate just to have to scrap it.

I felt the same way. Kind of nervous the first time it was started. Waiting for the belt to come off, get shredded or slip. After looking at other set-ups, I can't see a reason why it won't work. My first thought may have been a little premature to think the tensioner had to be on the other side. I hope it works for you too, it's a good looking set-up.

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Post  maverick on August 14th 2015, 3:06 pm

I'd guess that the tensioner can be on either side as long as there's a fixed pulley or a driven accessory between the the tensioner and the crank pulley.
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Post  jasonf on August 15th 2015, 7:50 am

Are those Mustang pullies on there?
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Post  MustangBBF on August 17th 2015, 8:30 am

Mustang pulleys on all except:

Vacuum pump = GZ motorsports 6 rib
Water Pump = ASP Thunderbird pump which is 6 groove for standard rotation

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Post  Mark Miller on August 20th 2015, 10:10 pm

Coupe Devil wrote:
Mark Miller wrote:
Coupe Devil wrote:
Mark Miller wrote:
rocketpony wrote:Car is nearing completion. So it's mainly a drag car, basically doesn't see any street use. It has jus an alternator . So jus I run a serpentine or v belt?
Pros n cons of both?
Thanks

Electric Water Pump or belt driven?FYI 5.0 Mustang serpentine crank pulley and water pump pulley bolts onto 460.I have them on my 460 in my Fox Body 89 Mustang.The only thing i had to do to the 5.0 water pump pulley was ream the center hole out.

Good to know. I have the pulleys to set mine up that way. Just have to figure the p.s. bracket out for now until I can get a manual rack.

I had power steering on mine till the rack started leaking.I have a manual rack now,so my belt is around the water pump pulley,crank pulley and alternator.I just put the 5.0 water pump pulley on over the July 4th weekend.

Do you have a picture of your tensioner / alt mount?



Here's the picture of my alternator bracket,i think the bracket is from a mid 70's Lincoln.A buddy of mine may he RIP made the spacers and the water pump pulley and crank pulley is from a 87-93 5.0 Mustang like i mentioned earlier.Sorry it took so long sometimes photo bucket is a pain in the butt.

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