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Which Alum Cylinder head?

Post  Harper 65 on August 18th 2015, 10:49 am

I am looking at Finally building a 460 for my 1965 Ford Pickup. I want a low 6 sec truck in the 1/8 mile yet i want it to be able to run upward of around 130-150 mph on top end. Transmission will be either a C4 automatic or possibly a lighter weight C6. my question is this,
which alum cylinder head is best for around 600 hp NA. I do plan to add some Nitrous but i want that to be in addition to what i will have NA.
Specs include
stock crank, eagle rods, after market pistons, Roller Cam/Lifters, Roller rockers, electric water pump, Engine Plate, not sure on the gear in the rear end yet.
I have ran the Ford port blue Thunders in the past and liked them, made around 600 hp with those, but to my understanding the Kaase P51 heads are supose to be better??
thanks in advance.
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Post  gmsmkr on August 18th 2015, 11:02 am

The frpp scj or p-51 will be a good choice for your need... sounds like a fun build
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Post  Harper 65 on August 18th 2015, 11:07 am

I am hoping so. I have been out of going to the track for a long while (Raising kids etc), so hopefully it will be something me and my boys can work on together, play at the track together and the best part is shut a few mouths around here that tend to be more on the shevy side of the fence and honestly get quite annoying at times lol
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Post  gmsmkr on August 18th 2015, 11:19 am

Harper 65 wrote:I am hoping so. I have been out of going to the track for a long while (Raising kids etc), so hopefully it will be something me and my boys can work on together, play at the track together and the best part is shut a few mouths around here that tend to be more on the shevy side of the fence and honestly get quite annoying at times lol

Working with the kids is the best part pay them with ice cream Razz

My 6yr old helping with a 2 valve mod motor
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Post  Harper 65 on August 18th 2015, 11:24 am

now thats awesome.

I really should break into the Mod Motor deal soon, but i just havent yet.
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Post  maverick on August 18th 2015, 12:57 pm

Is this engine going into a stock chassis?



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Post  dfree383 on August 18th 2015, 4:53 pm

You gong to need more than 600hp to make a factory truck chassis go that fast.

But P51s with some compression and a roller cam will get you well over 700 at 466"
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Post  maverick on August 18th 2015, 6:27 pm

maverick wrote:Is this engine going into a stock chassis?


I wasn't asking in regard to hp requirements. I was trying to imagine driving a '65 F100 upwards of 130 to 150 mph. Without some major chassis and aero upgrades, that might be more of a ride than planned. Shocked The last time I drove one of those, 85 mph was plenty thrilling. Wink Turns out that leaf springs, Twin-I-Beams and the aero of a barn door weren't aimed at the superspeedway.
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Post  gmsmkr on August 18th 2015, 6:31 pm

maverick wrote:
maverick wrote:Is this engine going into a stock chassis?


I wasn't asking in regard to hp requirements.  I was trying to imagine driving a '65 F100 upwards of 130 to 150 mph.  Without some major chassis and aero upgrades, that might be more of a ride than planned. Shocked   The last time I drove one of those, 85 mph was plenty thrilling. Wink   Turns out that leaf springs, Twin-I-Beams and the aero of a barn door weren't aimed at the superspeedway.

Razz Razz you mean you wouldn't want to run 130 plus in a old truck on stock suspension

I think this ol truck could use a C/V swap front end and a coil over rear with ladder bars
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Post  supervel45 on August 18th 2015, 6:56 pm

I don't usually say this, but for what you want to do a stroker kit makes a lot of sense.

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Post  maverick on August 18th 2015, 7:03 pm

supervel45 wrote:I don't usually say this, but for what you want to do a stroker kit makes a lot of sense.

Yup.
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Post  bruno on August 18th 2015, 8:04 pm

maverick wrote:
supervel45 wrote:I don't usually say this, but for what you want to do a stroker kit makes a lot of sense.

Yup.

x2 and some P51 ..... Wink
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Post  mpinder18 on August 18th 2015, 8:13 pm

maverick wrote:Is this engine going into a stock chassis?

Drove a bbf 68 F100 for years back in the day, a real hand full. Update the front to a rack, disc brakes the rear with a ladder or 4 link and get it low.
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Post  maverick on August 18th 2015, 8:33 pm

Very low.
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Post  Lem Evans on August 18th 2015, 8:57 pm

Flat tappet or roller cam ?

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Post  mpinder18 on August 19th 2015, 9:44 am

Lem Evans wrote:Flat tappet or roller cam ?
Mine was flat tappet. If your after big numbers then go roller. It is expensive but any motor going fast is. I ran MSD with a rev limter long ago so I had no problems with flat tappet. What ever cam you choose I would go with a custom grind. Parts for bbf fords were not around wide spread in the 1980 an 1990 so you get custom set up now easy.
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Post  mpinder18 on August 19th 2015, 9:59 am

[quote="Lem Evans"]Flat tappet or roller

Go aftermarket heads, lots of years of development are done.
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Post  butterbean on August 19th 2015, 12:34 pm

I know the old truck is cool but for how fast you wanna go I would find a older Ranger and gut it and put the BBF in it, you will be way ahead in the weight category, or a stroker and a front clip will get you there too!!!! happy building
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