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Post  BBFTorino on January 28th 2016, 8:24 pm

Im specifically wanting to know exactly what a "B460 Bastard Pro Stock" head is!!
How does it compare to a "C" head as far as flow and power potential??
Also, Blue Thunder "Thor" heads....are they the top of the non-hemi food chain, or are "C" heads better??

Any pics of all these heads available somewhere??

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Post  BBFTorino on January 28th 2016, 8:31 pm

Also, what about "Profiler" heads??
Im sorry, but I have been 'out of the loop' for awhile, so please forgive my ignorance on this!! Cool

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Post  1982GT on January 29th 2016, 7:18 am

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Post  dfree383 on January 29th 2016, 10:11 am

Well... A bastard prostock head is a series of about 12 different generations of heads built by Rick Smith of TFS fame in the late 80's and early 90's. They where never widely available or mass produced. Some worked very well others where experiments.

Profiler heads are a version of C460 heads built by a company called profiler. They are a good head for bigger inch engines say 600" and up
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Post  BBFTorino on January 30th 2016, 2:33 am

1982GT wrote:Plenty of cylinder head info here.

http://www.429-460.com/t122-cylinder-head-info-gathered-by-djohagin
Lots of good info here, and takes a while to read!! LOL.
With the introduction of the AFR heads (and matching intake), I wonder where they fit in on the list. Maybe its time for a revision of the list??
I also see there are "Thor Gen II" heads out now...better than the 1st gen, I would guess.

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Post  dfree383 on January 30th 2016, 2:40 am

The AFR stuff appears to fit in line with the Ford racing SCJs and the Kaase P-51s.

But as of yet they do not appear to be widely avaliable to my knowledge


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Post  BBFTorino on January 30th 2016, 2:53 am

I always wondered what a set of max effort / full race factory iron CJ's with the exhaust ports milled off and replaced with the high port plates would flow.
I see these midwest truck pulls with their big blocks screaming at the 10,000 RPM zone for 30+ seconds, and wonder how a BBF would do with heads like that. I know some classes have rules that mandate factory produced heads, but any mods are allowed...I think!!

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Post  dfree383 on January 30th 2016, 9:23 am

BBFTorino wrote:I always wondered what a set of max effort / full race factory iron CJ's with the exhaust ports milled off and replaced with the high port plates would flow.
I see these midwest truck pulls with their big blocks screaming at the 10,000 RPM zone for 30+ seconds, and wonder how a BBF would do with heads like that. I know some classes have rules that mandate factory produced heads, but any mods are allowed...I think!!  

They hold their own in the stock iron head classes.


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Post  rmcomprandy on January 30th 2016, 12:24 pm

BBFTorino wrote:Im specifically wanting to know exactly what a "B460 Bastard Pro Stock" head is!!
How does it compare to a "C" head as far as flow and power potential??

Any pics of all these heads available somewhere??

The "B460" and "bastard pro stock heads" are not the same things.

The B460 was available as a mass produced head from Ford Motorsport back in the 90's.

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Post  BBFTorino on January 30th 2016, 3:48 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:
BBFTorino wrote:Im specifically wanting to know exactly what a "B460 Bastard Pro Stock" head is!!
How does it compare to a "C" head as far as flow and power potential??

Any pics of all these heads available somewhere??

The "B460" and "bastard pro stock heads" are not the same things.

The B460 was available as a mass produced head from Ford Motorsport back in the 90's.

Correct me if Im wrong, but were'nt the B460 heads just like the "A" heads but with smaller ports?? Did'nt they make em with much more "meat" around the port walls to accommodate custom porting by the cyl. head specialist??
Or were the ports raised or different from the "A" heads??

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Post  rmcomprandy on January 30th 2016, 8:42 pm

BBFTorino wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
BBFTorino wrote:Im specifically wanting to know exactly what a "B460 Bastard Pro Stock" head is!!
How does it compare to a "C" head as far as flow and power potential??

Any pics of all these heads available somewhere??

The "B460" and "bastard pro stock heads" are not the same things.

The B460 was available as a mass produced head from Ford Motorsport back in the 90's.

Correct me if Im wrong, but were'nt the B460 heads just like the "A" heads but with smaller ports?? Did'nt they make em with much more "meat" around the port walls to accommodate custom porting by the cyl. head specialist??
Or were the ports raised or different from the "A" heads??

You are partially correct here; the exhaust ports on both heads were the same.  Ford Motorsport also offered a smaller port manifold to match those heads if you wanted those high velocity intake ports.

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Post  BBFTorino on February 13th 2016, 9:38 pm

Has anyone seen any pics of the new C&C Motorsports "Pro-18" BBF heads yet??

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Post  windsor on February 14th 2016, 1:33 pm

BBFTorino wrote:Has anyone seen any pics of the new C&C Motorsports "Pro-18" BBF heads yet??

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Post  68formalGT on February 14th 2016, 8:54 pm

windsor wrote:
BBFTorino wrote:Has anyone seen any pics of the new C&C Motorsports "Pro-18" BBF heads yet??



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Post  res0rli9 on March 10th 2016, 11:51 am

BBFTorino wrote:
1982GT wrote:Plenty of cylinder head info here.

http://www.429-460.com/t122-cylinder-head-info-gathered-by-djohagin
Lots of good info here, and takes a while to read!! LOL.
With the introduction of the AFR heads (and matching intake), I wonder where they fit in on the list. Maybe its time for a revision of the list??
I also see there are "Thor Gen II" heads out now...better than the 1st gen, I would guess.

http://www.airflowresearch.com/index.php?cPath=132_135

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Post  supervel45 on March 10th 2016, 1:59 pm

Maybe that explains it all?

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Post  rmcomprandy on March 10th 2016, 8:58 pm

BBFTorino wrote:Im specifically wanting to know exactly what a "B460 Bastard Pro Stock" head is!!
How does it compare to a "C" head as far as flow and power potential??
Also, Blue Thunder "Thor" heads....are they the top of the non-hemi food chain, or are "C" heads better??

Any pics of all these heads available somewhere??

One more time ... That "B460" is NOT the bastard pro-stock head.
With the bastard pro-stock heads there are not more than 4 sets ever which were the same.

Personally, if just horsepower is your main criteria, then I would get the "Profiler 205's".
The "Thor's" are no longer available at this time.

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Post  BBFTorino on March 12th 2016, 3:39 am

windsor wrote:
BBFTorino wrote:Has anyone seen any pics of the new C&C Motorsports "Pro-18" BBF heads yet??

Well, C and C Motorsports has an ad in the "Fastest Street Car Magazine" that says "New for 2016, PRO-18 Big Block Ford Wedge Head".
But their website has no info or pics on it.
Just wondering exactly what it is!!

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Post  windsor on March 12th 2016, 3:55 am

Interesting. I'll check it out.
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Post  windsor on March 12th 2016, 4:06 am

Hey... He's right.  Wonder what the story is, I heard that C&C was going to close up shop soon.



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Post  res0rli9 on March 12th 2016, 1:17 pm

windsor wrote:Hey... He's right.  Wonder what the story is, I heard that C&C was going to close up shop soon.







He's just a phone call away and your next door to him.  Smile  Give him a call & see whats up.

OH and get some pic's or it didn't happen. Smile

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Post  windsor on March 12th 2016, 1:19 pm

Yes he is normally a 30 minute drive away.... But I am currently assigned to Qatar for another 16 months Sad
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Post  Lukesportsman on March 18th 2016, 1:20 pm

Has anyone called on these heads? Wonder if I simply missed them at PRI this year.

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Post  mr.horsepower on November 22nd 2016, 7:08 pm

The pro-18 is suppose to be a replica of a thor gen 2, not completely sure if it's gonna look exactly the same but it will except all hardware, manifolding, etc., I believe c&c is producing a cast one piece intake also
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Post  Gary Blair on December 14th 2016, 8:52 am

rmcomprandy wrote:
BBFTorino wrote:Im specifically wanting to know exactly what a "B460 Bastard Pro Stock" head is!!
How does it compare to a "C" head as far as flow and power potential??

Any pics of all these heads available somewhere??

The "B460" and "bastard pro stock heads" are not the same things.

The B460 was available as a mass produced head from Ford Motorsport back in the 90's.

Randy, some of the Rick Smith Pro Stock heads had the B-460 logo and approved back in the day by Ford and NHRA for Pro Stock. The smaller CSA Pontiac looking spread port ones I had were like that.
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