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Post  Sheermadness77 on May 3rd 2016, 9:41 am

I'm in the middle of rebuilding my 460 for my 77 ford f150 4X4 that I run in the sand and on the street. I have been using the Ford Racing camshaft (M6250A460) for years and have been very happy with it for my application. When I called to order a new cam and lifters from the dealer they told me that cam was discontinued. I am looking for another camshaft that is close to this one. All recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Ed
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Post  dfree383 on May 3rd 2016, 10:25 am

Call Lem Evans or Randy Malik up and the can have one custom ground for you, it's not super expensive and you will get exactly what you want.
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Re: Discontinued Cam Shaft M6250A460

Post  drifterdan on May 3rd 2016, 11:47 am

Try calling Lake City Ford in Idaho, 208-664-9211 they show one in stock.

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Post  Sheermadness77 on May 3rd 2016, 12:55 pm

drifterdan wrote:Try calling Lake City Ford in Idaho, 208-664-9211 they show one in stock.

Thanks for the info, I called them and they said the inventory shows one but its not there. Just my luck!! -Ed
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Post  paperman on May 3rd 2016, 6:36 pm

310/320, Lift .588/.614 is the specs on it. Find something close if you are sure thats what you want or call one of the vendors for a custom unit that will likely work better.

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Post  FalconEh on May 3rd 2016, 6:55 pm

paperman wrote:310/320, Lift .588/.614 is the specs on it.  Find something close if you are sure thats what you want or call one of the vendors for a custom unit that will likely work better.  

I think those are the C460 specs, I believe the A460 specs are 288/292, lift .493/.502
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Post  paperman on May 3rd 2016, 7:04 pm

Damn, yep, I need to look closer. I had the C460 in head as that was the last cam I had in my 466. It was a good runner.

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Post  rmcomprandy on May 3rd 2016, 7:39 pm

Sheermadness77 wrote:I'm in the middle of rebuilding my 460 for my 77 ford f150 4X4 that I run in the sand and on the street. I have been using the Ford Racing camshaft (M6250A460) for years and have been very happy with it for my application. When I called to order a new cam and lifters from the dealer they told me that cam was discontinued. I am looking for another camshaft that is close to this one. All recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Ed

It is not discontinued; Ford Racing simply doesn't have it anymore. That camshaft is the same as the Ford Marine cam.
Elgin and others do sell it.

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Post  rmcomprandy on May 3rd 2016, 7:42 pm

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Post  Sheermadness77 on May 4th 2016, 7:44 am

rmcomprandy wrote:
Sheermadness77 wrote:I'm in the middle of rebuilding my 460 for my 77 ford f150 4X4 that I run in the sand and on the street. I have been using the Ford Racing camshaft (M6250A460) for years and have been very happy with it for my application. When I called to order a new cam and lifters from the dealer they told me that cam was discontinued. I am looking for another camshaft that is close to this one. All recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Ed

It is not discontinued; Ford Racing simply doesn't have it anymore. That camshaft is the same as the Ford Marine cam.
Elgin and others do sell it.

Do you happen to have a part number for the Elgin piece? -Ed
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Post  supervel45 on May 4th 2016, 8:22 am

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Elgin-Performance-Cam-lifters-214-224-Dur-512-538-Lift-Ford-bb-370-429-460-/231737191330?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

^^^^This ones real close. It has a little more lift and is on a 112LSA instead of a 114.5 Like the SVO Cam.

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Post  rmcomprandy on May 4th 2016, 9:13 am

Sheermadness77 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
Sheermadness77 wrote:I'm in the middle of rebuilding my 460 for my 77 ford f150 4X4 that I run in the sand and on the street. I have been using the Ford Racing camshaft (M6250A460) for years and have been very happy with it for my application. When I called to order a new cam and lifters from the dealer they told me that cam was discontinued. I am looking for another camshaft that is close to this one. All recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Ed

It is not discontinued; Ford Racing simply doesn't have it anymore. That camshaft is the same as the Ford Marine cam.
Elgin and others do sell it.

Do you happen to have a part number for the Elgin piece? -Ed

The ELGIN part number is E-1586-S

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Post  Sheermadness77 on May 4th 2016, 9:16 am

rmcomprandy wrote:
Sheermadness77 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
Sheermadness77 wrote:I'm in the middle of rebuilding my 460 for my 77 ford f150 4X4 that I run in the sand and on the street. I have been using the Ford Racing camshaft (M6250A460) for years and have been very happy with it for my application. When I called to order a new cam and lifters from the dealer they told me that cam was discontinued. I am looking for another camshaft that is close to this one. All recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Ed

It is not discontinued; Ford Racing simply doesn't have it anymore. That camshaft is the same as the Ford Marine cam.
Elgin and others do sell it.

Do you happen to have a part number for the Elgin piece? -Ed

The ELGIN part number is E-1586-S


Thank you sooo much!! Very Happy -Ed
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Post  supervel45 on May 4th 2016, 9:30 am

http://catalog.elginind.com/download/PROSTOCK.PDF


Page 29 Looks Like Elgin even has a copy of the C460 Cam. Did SVO FRPP get their cams from Elgin?

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Post  jasonf on May 4th 2016, 10:01 am

paperman wrote:Damn, yep, I need to look closer.  I had the C460 in head as that was the last cam I had in my 466.  It was a good runner.  

So are you looking for the C460 or the A460 now?
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Post  supervel45 on May 4th 2016, 10:25 am

jasonf wrote:
paperman wrote:Damn, yep, I need to look closer.  I had the C460 in head as that was the last cam I had in my 466.  It was a good runner.  

So are you looking for the C460 or the A460 now?

I don't think he was, I just mentioned it because someone else did an I happened to see a grind like it in the Elgin catalog as well as a few other FRPP Edelbrock and Crane grinds also.

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Post  Sheermadness77 on May 4th 2016, 3:02 pm

jasonf wrote:
paperman wrote:Damn, yep, I need to look closer.  I had the C460 in head as that was the last cam I had in my 466.  It was a good runner.  

So are you looking for the C460 or the A460 now?


The A460 marine cam. found it from Elgin, Thanks for all of your help. -Ed
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Post  rmcomprandy on May 4th 2016, 4:22 pm

supervel45 wrote:

Page 29 Looks Like Elgin even has a copy of the C460 Cam. Did SVO FRPP get their cams from Elgin?

The FRPP "C460" camshaft was a HYDRAULIC lifter camshaft and Elgin's cam of the same specs is a SOLID lifter camshaft.

Engine Power or Camshaft Machine grind most of the generic camshafts within the marketplace.

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Post  supervel45 on May 4th 2016, 10:35 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:
supervel45 wrote:

Page 29 Looks Like Elgin even has a copy of the C460 Cam. Did SVO FRPP get their cams from Elgin?

The FRPP "C460" camshaft was a HYDRAULIC lifter camshaft and Elgin's cam of the same specs is a SOLID lifter camshaft.

Engine Power or Camshaft Machine grind most of the generic camshafts within the marketplace.

I figured they
where all coming out of the same place somewhere and going into different boxes as a lot of the big name companies have grinds that are almost identical, Like the Edelbrock Performer and Performer Rpm grinds pop up with other companies name on them and I think FRPP even used a grind like the RPM in the crate engines and sold it separately also for awhile.

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Post  rmcomprandy on May 5th 2016, 12:03 am

supervel45 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
supervel45 wrote:

Page 29 Looks Like Elgin even has a copy of the C460 Cam. Did SVO FRPP get their cams from Elgin?

The FRPP "C460" camshaft was a HYDRAULIC lifter camshaft and Elgin's cam of the same specs is a SOLID lifter camshaft.

Engine Power or Camshaft Machine grind most of the generic camshafts within the marketplace.

I figured they
where all coming out of the same place somewhere and going into different boxes as a lot of the big name companies have grinds that are almost identical, Like the Edelbrock Performer and Performer Rpm grinds pop up with other companies name on them and I think FRPP even used a grind like the RPM in the crate engines and sold it separately also for awhile.

The Edelbrock RPM cam was on 108 degree separation and the FRPP "A443" cam was on a 112 degree separation.
Same lobe profiles but, a customized camshaft for whatever company bought them from the manufacturer for their own label.

Lobe profiles and separations are mixed and matched all over the place by those large parent manufacturers if you want a box-car load of your own "label" camshafts. Examples; Elgin, Melling, Sealed Power, Edelbrock, etc. Though every company does have some proprietary grinds.
A few "mom & pop" camshaft grinders do that with many profiles designed by other places for even just one "custom" camshaft; a Comp Cams intake lobe with a Crane exhaust lobe for example.

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