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Post  Snowball Racing on June 3rd 2016, 11:09 am

I have built 2 different versions of A motor in the past. They were all a BRICK.

Anywhere from 509 CI to 598 CI

I used the original Ford A head on my first A motor, and EX 514's on the second one. Neither motor ran anywhere near what I thought it should run.

Went to a C head, and havent looked back until now.

Brandon (bigblockfalcon) wanted to build a bigger pc, and I struggled with making him buy C heads due to what it costs to assemble one. I have been watching Phillip Oakley build A motors with the new version A from TFS. He has them hauling ass for a lack of a better term.

So I decided to let Phillip sell me heads, intake and a camshaft to assemble a 598, and use the cash saved on The C head to buy vacuum pump, and dry sump system. (so much better for bracket racing IMHO.

So, we assembled it and got it in the car, weighed the car and it sits @ 1996lbs on the starting line, driver onboard....fuckn heavy! lol!

first full hit, 4.651@149 in the south Fla heat last Saturday. It has 50's in it easily in this air, let alone the cool weather and low humidity we get in winter, I think high 40's not out of the question. To say I am pleased is an understatement, as I take spending other peoples money seriously, and I only do this shit for fun.

So, Thank you Flip and the guys at Oakley, and if you want to build an A motor that makes over 1100, easily, call those guys.

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Post  IDT-572 on June 3rd 2016, 5:29 pm

Wink Cool

Go Flip...............
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Post  NITROUS FORD on June 3rd 2016, 9:44 pm

whats the motor spec if you dont mind me asking

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Post  windsor on June 4th 2016, 8:09 am

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Post  Oakley Motorsports on June 6th 2016, 7:27 am

Thank you Sir!!! We appreciate your business and glad you are happy! TFS a-460 heads are the best bang for the buck out there IMO!

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Post  BigBlockFalcon on June 7th 2016, 11:58 am

Oakley Motorsports wrote:Thank you Sir!!! We appreciate your business and glad you are happy!  TFS a-460 heads are the best bang for the buck out there IMO!

It's going to be a killer Quick Rod car.
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Post  dfree383 on June 7th 2016, 12:35 pm

Oakley FTW!
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Post  Curt on June 7th 2016, 3:26 pm

For all of the A head haters, you can't compare the new TFS heads to the old motorsports heads. They are as different as the old cobrajet heads and the new P-51s. Not taking anything away from Flip, he obviously knows how to get all the power out of most BB stuff. I had a max effort Motorsport head set up years ago and was ecstatic to achieve 850hp.
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Post  Snowball Racing on June 9th 2016, 10:33 am

Curt wrote:For all of the A head haters, you can't compare the new TFS heads to the old motorsports heads. They are as different as the old cobrajet heads and the new P-51s. Not taking anything away from Flip, he obviously knows how to get all the power out of most BB stuff.  I had a max effort Motorsport head set up years ago and was ecstatic to achieve 850hp.  


^^ kind of the whole point of my thread. Arrow
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Post  dfree383 on June 9th 2016, 11:32 am

The old castings can be made to run as good if you want to spend the time and money. It's all in the ports and valve jobs. But you can't think old school you need to update your thinking.

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Post  Lem Evans on June 9th 2016, 12:09 pm

The nice machined chambers in the current TFS 'A' style heads does help also.

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Post  dfree383 on June 9th 2016, 1:32 pm

Lem Evans wrote:The nice machined chambers in the current TFS 'A' style heads does help also.
Agreed.
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Post  John Myrick on June 9th 2016, 2:04 pm

We'll see what my 340's with the machined chambers do with just a port match job to a manifold I'm getting from Oakley. The manifold has 8 funny looking nozzles on it also Cool
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Post  68formalGT on June 9th 2016, 6:41 pm

John Myrick wrote:We'll see what my 340's with the machined chambers do with just a port match job to a manifold I'm getting from Oakley. The manifold has 8 funny looking nozzles on it also Cool

One tap or two on top of each nozzle?
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Post  John Myrick on June 10th 2016, 6:37 am

68formalGT wrote:
John Myrick wrote:We'll see what my 340's with the machined chambers do with just a port match job to a manifold I'm getting from Oakley. The manifold has 8 funny looking nozzles on it also Cool

One tap or two on top of each nozzle?

Just one for now
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Post  BigBlockFalcon on June 10th 2016, 10:43 am

NITROUS FORD wrote:whats the motor spec if you dont mind me asking

http://www.429-460.com/t24711-first-few-runs-on-my-598ci-tfs-a460-motor
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Post  rollercam1 on June 18th 2016, 2:05 pm

I am looking at building something similar for a king of the street type racing. Same engine but less cam, compression and a wet sump. The car is a 89 fox coupe on a 315 radial. Interesting build!
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