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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  68formalGT on 15th December 2016, 22:24

Gary Blair wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:
68formalGT wrote:
HorsinAround wrote:I think the one on the left is the one that will work with the A460 and their new F460.


F460? Iron A460, kinda like an EX514 iron replacement?

No SCJ cast iron head with an A head port in it. Not raised.

Might fit the AFR too?

One intake to fit multiple platforms?
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  csdrag on 15th December 2016, 23:20

Do you know if that will work with Ford Motorsports A head?
4speed wrote:Supposed to have one on my engine in late February for dyno time, heard from a good source that its 20+ hp better than what's currently available ported
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  Gary Blair on 16th December 2016, 04:03

4speed wrote:Supposed to have one on my engine in late February for dyno time, heard from a good source that its 20+ hp better than what's currently available ported

Puller engine?
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  Scott Foxwell on 16th December 2016, 10:58

The current "spider" intake design is outdated, especially for higher rpm apps. Heads have come a long way and we're still using 70's technology for intakes. I'm hoping that one of the "smarter" intake designers is going to come on board with the BB Ford platform and give is one of his designs. He was asking me if he could cast one intake that would cover the Thor, the Profiler and maybe the C head? Bolt holes aren't a problem, just was wondering about port location? These intakes are basically finished on the inside of the plenum with the port openings at the flanges left small to fit whatever port.

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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  Gary Blair on 16th December 2016, 11:21

Scott Foxwell wrote:The current "spider" intake design is outdated, especially for higher rpm apps. Heads have come a long way and we're still using 70's technology for intakes. I'm hoping that one of the "smarter" intake designers is going to come on board with the BB Ford platform and give is one of his designs. He was asking me if he could cast one intake that would cover the Thor, the Profiler and maybe the C head? Bolt holes aren't a problem, just was wondering about port location? These intakes are basically finished on the inside of the plenum with the port openings at the flanges left small to fit whatever port.

Good idea. Thick flange, multi port heights. I like Chris Uratchko's 2 piece CAD drawing.
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Post  Scott Foxwell on 16th December 2016, 12:18

Gary Blair wrote:
Scott Foxwell wrote:The current "spider" intake design is outdated, especially for higher rpm apps. Heads have come a long way and we're still using 70's technology for intakes. I'm hoping that one of the "smarter" intake designers is going to come on board with the BB Ford platform and give is one of his designs. He was asking me if he could cast one intake that would cover the Thor, the Profiler and maybe the C head? Bolt holes aren't a problem, just was wondering about port location? These intakes are basically finished on the inside of the plenum with the port openings at the flanges left small to fit whatever port.

Good idea. Thick flange, multi port heights. I like Chris Uratchko's 2 piece CAD drawing.
It would be something very similar to Chris' with a lot of the same thinking and attention to detail. CAD designed. Of course his question was is there really a market? I told him it would be a limited market, but yes I think there would be one.

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Post  68formalGT on 16th December 2016, 13:00

Gary Blair wrote:
Scott Foxwell wrote:The current "spider" intake design is outdated, especially for higher rpm apps. Heads have come a long way and we're still using 70's technology for intakes. I'm hoping that one of the "smarter" intake designers is going to come on board with the BB Ford platform and give is one of his designs. He was asking me if he could cast one intake that would cover the Thor, the Profiler and maybe the C head? Bolt holes aren't a problem, just was wondering about port location? These intakes are basically finished on the inside of the plenum with the port openings at the flanges left small to fit whatever port.

Good idea. Thick flange, multi port heights. I like Chris Uratchko's 2 piece CAD drawing.

Gary, do you have a link to Chris' idea?
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  Mark Laczo on 16th December 2016, 22:47

https://www.facebook.com/chris.uratchko/posts/1347929411884054

If you are on crackbook.

Some of my drag race buddys use him so I see his posts.

FWIW Mark
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  68formalGT on 16th December 2016, 23:31

Thanks Mark. That's a pretty cool setup.
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  Gary Blair on 17th December 2016, 03:05

68formalGT wrote:
Gary Blair wrote:
Scott Foxwell wrote:The current "spider" intake design is outdated, especially for higher rpm apps. Heads have come a long way and we're still using 70's technology for intakes. I'm hoping that one of the "smarter" intake designers is going to come on board with the BB Ford platform and give is one of his designs. He was asking me if he could cast one intake that would cover the Thor, the Profiler and maybe the C head? Bolt holes aren't a problem, just was wondering about port location? These intakes are basically finished on the inside of the plenum with the port openings at the flanges left small to fit whatever port.

Good idea. Thick flange, multi port heights. I like Chris Uratchko's 2 piece CAD drawing.

Gary, do you have a link to Chris' idea?

Sorry I can't find at the moment. It was on yellow Bullet.
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  Truckblock on 20th December 2016, 13:23

Anyone know what the height of this intake is? With the local class that we may run, we are limited to a 6" cowl hood and thinking this may not fit on a new combo we may build.

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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  4speed on 26th December 2016, 23:09

csdrag wrote:Do you know if that will work with Ford Motorsports A head?
4speed wrote:Supposed to have one on my engine in late February for dyno time, heard from a good source that its 20+ hp better than what's currently available ported
As far as I know it should fit any A style head that the current A style intakes fit.
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  4speed on 26th December 2016, 23:10

Gary Blair wrote:
4speed wrote:Supposed to have one on my engine in late February for dyno time, heard from a good source that its 20+ hp better than what's currently available ported

Puller engine?
Yes Gary, pulling engine
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  68formalGT on 14th January 2017, 15:37

4speed wrote:

I just saw this picture on Steve Vance's Facebook page last night. I was searching A460 and it came up. I wonder if a regular dominator will fit it or if you need an adapter plate from that stretched carb pattern?
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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  BOSS 429 on 14th January 2017, 16:30

you would have to make a plate to have it fit
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Post  68formalGT on 14th January 2017, 17:03

Would that change the fuel distribution much or would it still work with the regular dominator spacing?
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Post  hookin78 on 23rd January 2017, 16:21

Actually it has a standard dominator flange and bolt pattern in it , but cast so you can open it up . I have a picture of the advertisement from the show, You have to cut it open and drill holes for a spread dominator flange. The one in the picture had been opened up under the carb pab and holes drilled for the stretched carb.

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Post  68formalGT on 23rd January 2017, 16:27

hookin78 wrote:Actually it has a standard dominator flange and bolt pattern in it , but cast so you can open it up .  I have a picture of the advertisement from the show, You have to cut it open and drill holes for a spread dominator flange.  The one in the picture had been opened up under the carb pab and holes drilled for the stretched carb.  

Any word on when they'll be available?
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Post  BOSS 429 on 23rd January 2017, 21:59

hookin78 wrote:Actually it has a standard dominator flange and bolt pattern in it , but cast so you can open it up .  I have a picture of the advertisement from the show, You have to cut it open and drill holes for a spread dominator flange.  The one in the picture had been opened up under the carb pab and holes drilled for the stretched carb.  


The one above,DOES NOT HAVE A 5 3/8'' on center 4500 bolt pattern. (one at the show) It is an extended dom pattered
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Post  BOSS 429 on 23rd January 2017, 22:01

68formalGT wrote:Would that change the fuel distribution much or would it still work with the regular dominator spacing?

yes after building these kind of manifolds it does hurt them to move it inward
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Post  68formalGT on 23rd January 2017, 22:09

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68formalGT wrote:Would that change the fuel distribution much or would it still work with the regular dominator spacing?

yes  after building these kind of manifolds it does hurt them to move it inward

Are they good, reliable carbs? I've seen pictures of them but never seen one in person, and haven't done any research on them. One of the guys I race with has a pair of split dominators on a 632, they seem to work OK but there's a lot of linkage to make them work.
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Post  hookin78 on 24th January 2017, 10:01

[/quote]The one above,DOES NOT HAVE A 5 3/8'' on center 4500 bolt pattern. (one at the show) It is an extended dom pattered [/quote]

Correct,   I was referring to the Advertisement sheet that was stacked up in front of it that has a picture of it with a standard pattern and statement that it came with a standard pattern or could be opened up to a spread carb

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Post  Scott Foxwell on 24th January 2017, 10:51

BOSS 429 wrote:
hookin78 wrote:Actually it has a standard dominator flange and bolt pattern in it , but cast so you can open it up .  I have a picture of the advertisement from the show, You have to cut it open and drill holes for a spread dominator flange.  The one in the picture had been opened up under the carb pab and holes drilled for the stretched carb.  


The one above,DOES NOT HAVE A 5 3/8'' on center 4500 bolt pattern. (one at the show) It is an extended dom pattered
I bet if you take that carb off you would see that it DOES have the on center 4500 bolt pattern. Like Brandon said, that's how they come. The one in the pic has been modified to fit the stretched Dom. The intake is cast so you can do that.

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Re: New Eliminator intake

Post  BOSS 429 on 24th January 2017, 13:05

I did lift the carb off, that's how i know.
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Post  BOSS 429 on 24th January 2017, 13:08

68formalGT wrote:
BOSS 429 wrote:
68formalGT wrote:Would that change the fuel distribution much or would it still work with the regular dominator spacing?

yes  after building these kind of manifolds it does hurt them to move it inward

Are they good, reliable carbs? I've seen pictures of them but never seen one in person, and haven't done any research on them. One of the guys I race with has a pair of split dominators on a 632, they seem to work OK but there's a lot of linkage to make them work.

Ive never ran one of those, We have cut ,and extended out own, And yes they work great
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