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Post  6jeff6 January 9th 2017, 10:16 am

I have a 521 with scj heads, 10-1 compression, a block, mechanical roller cam m-6250-a514, forged pistons, forged h-beam rods, cast nodular iron crank, with ring gap 24 top 22 bottom. What do I need to buy and gap rings for more spray? Right now I'm limited to a 250 shot. I am also considering getting heads worked but depends on how much rings cost. Head work will be 2.25 valves and such or just cleaned for better flow. Any help would be great
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Post  rmcomprandy January 9th 2017, 11:42 am

6jeff6 wrote:I have a 521 with scj heads, 10-1 compression,  a block, mechanical roller cam m-6250-a514, forged pistons,  forged h-beam rods, cast nodular iron crank, with ring gap 24 top 22 bottom. What do I need to buy and gap rings for more spray? Right now I'm limited to a 250 shot.  I am also considering getting heads worked but depends on how much rings cost. Head work will be 2.25 valves and such or just cleaned for better flow. Any help would be great

Personally ... I would use a hard-coated steel top ring.

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Post  6jeff6 January 9th 2017, 12:11 pm

Thanks. Best brand/manufacturer or atleast recommendations?
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Post  Scott Foxwell January 9th 2017, 12:35 pm

I would call Total Seal. For that amount of spray you don't need anything exotic but let the experts tell you. I deal with Ed Law but there are plenty of sharp guys there who will help direct you. As far as gap, they'll tell you once you decide on a ring package.

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Post  6jeff6 January 9th 2017, 12:44 pm

Thanks
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Post  BOSS 429 January 9th 2017, 12:46 pm

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Post  6jeff6 January 9th 2017, 12:55 pm

It's roush/Yates motor and I called the tech line directly an they said I could spray up to 250 shot. I sprayed a 200 shot about 25 times and a 250 shot once (broke C4 forward drum)
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Post  gt350hr January 9th 2017, 1:23 pm

With increased ring end gap ( to prevent butting) a moly ring is marginal beyond the 250-300 shot. Steel rings ( and increased gap) are required for numbers over 300. I do not recommend the "hardened manganese" rings as they hurt cylinder walls FAR more than the more durable steel rings like the Total Seal AP AND Hastings PVD offerings.

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Post  6jeff6 January 9th 2017, 1:56 pm

Thank you for all the help. I hope to get to a 500 shot but will be happy with 250 shot for a little while. I'm thinking the 500 would need a couple stages to come in as I already can't spray 200 off the line so I just did 2nd an 3rd.
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Post  6jeff6 January 9th 2017, 3:14 pm

Or the size of the ring isn't made anymore...
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Was what ford performance called me back wirh...
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Post  rmcomprandy January 9th 2017, 8:18 pm

6jeff6 wrote:Or the size of the ring isn't made anymore...
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Total Seal has spacers to partially fill a ring groove to use a thinner ring; radial gas ported spacers, too.

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Post  wayney January 9th 2017, 8:49 pm

mind if i ask how much ET it picked up with the 200 shot?


6jeff6 wrote:It's roush/Yates motor and I called the tech line directly an they said I could spray up to 250 shot. I sprayed a 200 shot about 25 times and a 250 shot once (broke C4 forward drum)

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Post  6jeff6 January 9th 2017, 8:53 pm

Why did it switch to such a thin ring?
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Post  6jeff6 January 9th 2017, 8:57 pm

Went from 10.8 to a 9.9 on same day passes mph went from 128 to 138-140mph. And trans was on well over 200 passes and a ton of street miles (c4). Car had gone 10.4 n/a when trans was fresh but was falling with every once an while 10.5
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