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Post  57ford custom on April 28th 2017, 5:06 pm

Are there any companies that you guys know of that have in stock P51 Kasse heads ready to go out the door set up for a cam lift of .800

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Post  dfree383 on April 28th 2017, 5:44 pm

Call Jon Kaase up he will configure them any way you want.

Or Lem Evans, Charlie, Randy Malick can assemble anything you need too.
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800 lift P51's

Post  Vermaverick on April 28th 2017, 5:47 pm

www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/html/kaase_p-51_-_big_block_ford_wedge_cylinder_heads.html

Should have them

Listed at $2695 assembled

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Post  57ford custom on April 28th 2017, 9:15 pm

I have had them on order from Kasse for over 3 months and they don't have any either and they are blaming the foundry. Which is most likely true. I was just wondering if somebody had a set that they were not using or hadn't decided to use and they were sitting on a shelf in their home or shop. Cool

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Post  BBFTorino on April 29th 2017, 4:17 am

http://www.racingjunk.com/Heads/182878847/P-51-KASSE-.html?quickSearch=1&categoryId1=&searchString=429%2F460&hideNotification=true&page=7&offset=68&from=search#3

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Post  jbozzelle on April 29th 2017, 10:18 am

Have you called Lem at BF Evans Ford?

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Post  Lem Evans on April 29th 2017, 10:29 am

We don't have any....there is a back order list from hell.

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Post  rmcomprandy on April 29th 2017, 6:20 pm

If you approach almost all the major cylinder head manufacturers out there, they will almost call you a liar for trying to tell them there IS a genuine interest in the marketplace to produce good Street/Strip type heads for the 385 series engine.  Mad

Even when you will give them a finished prototype and they won't need to suffer any engineering costs.

There just isn't any market for such a product; yea ... right. That's the opinion they have. Rolling Eyes

I remember over ten years ago that the aftermarket manufacturers could not be convinced that forged steel crankshafts for these 385 engines would be a viable product. scratch  

Are there actually 2 cylinder heads needed for every crankshaft out there ...? Question

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Post  SLord82 on April 29th 2017, 8:46 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:If you approach almost all the major cylinder head manufacturers out there, they will almost call you a liar for trying to tell them there IS a genuine interest in the marketplace to produce good Street/Strip type heads for the 385 series engine.  Mad

Even when you will give them a finished prototype and they won't need to suffer any engineering costs.

There just isn't any market for such a product; yea ... right. That's the opinion they have. Rolling Eyes

I remember over ten years ago that the aftermarket manufacturers could not be convinced that forged steel crankshafts for these 385 engines would be a viable product. scratch  

Are there actually 2 cylinder heads needed for every crankshaft out there ...? Question

Did you produce a prototype street/strip head? Care to post pics and info? Sounds interesting

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Have you looked at AFR?

Post  4604X4 on April 30th 2017, 8:12 am

Are you set on the P-51s? A lot of builders have been recommending the AFR heads over the P-51s http://www.airflowresearch.com/ford/bbf-bullitt-14-cylinder-head/
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Post  rmcomprandy on April 30th 2017, 11:11 am

SLord82 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:If you approach almost all the major cylinder head manufacturers out there, they will almost call you a liar for trying to tell them there IS a genuine interest in the marketplace to produce good Street/Strip type heads for the 385 series engine.  Mad

Even when you will give them a finished prototype and they won't need to suffer any engineering costs.

There just isn't any market for such a product; yea ... right. That's the opinion they have. Rolling Eyes

I remember over ten years ago that the aftermarket manufacturers could not be convinced that forged steel crankshafts for these 385 engines would be a viable product. scratch  

Are there actually 2 cylinder heads needed for every crankshaft out there ...? Question

Did you produce a prototype street/strip head? Care to post pics and info? Sounds interesting

YES ... almost 5 years ago, now.  The particulars along with actual dyno results are on this site somewhere; from years ago.
The head is now at Pro-Max as they are the last ones to say NO because they believe the market for a big block Ford head is now to saturated for them to make a profit.

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Post  68formalGT on April 30th 2017, 11:35 am

rmcomprandy wrote:
SLord82 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:If you approach almost all the major cylinder head manufacturers out there, they will almost call you a liar for trying to tell them there IS a genuine interest in the marketplace to produce good Street/Strip type heads for the 385 series engine.  Mad

Even when you will give them a finished prototype and they won't need to suffer any engineering costs.

There just isn't any market for such a product; yea ... right. That's the opinion they have. Rolling Eyes

I remember over ten years ago that the aftermarket manufacturers could not be convinced that forged steel crankshafts for these 385 engines would be a viable product. scratch  

Are there actually 2 cylinder heads needed for every crankshaft out there ...? Question

Did you produce a prototype street/strip head? Care to post pics and info? Sounds interesting

YES ... almost 5 years ago, now.  The particulars along with actual dyno results are on this site somewhere; from years ago.
The head is now at Pro-Max as they are the last ones to say NO because they believe the market for a big block Ford head is now to saturated for them to make a profit.

Was that before or after the AFR head release Randy? Or were you aiming for a different segment(A460, C460 etc.)?
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Re: Kasse P 51 heads

Post  rmcomprandy on April 30th 2017, 11:36 am

68formalGT wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
SLord82 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:If you approach almost all the major cylinder head manufacturers out there, they will almost call you a liar for trying to tell them there IS a genuine interest in the marketplace to produce good Street/Strip type heads for the 385 series engine.  Mad

Even when you will give them a finished prototype and they won't need to suffer any engineering costs.

There just isn't any market for such a product; yea ... right. That's the opinion they have. Rolling Eyes

I remember over ten years ago that the aftermarket manufacturers could not be convinced that forged steel crankshafts for these 385 engines would be a viable product. scratch  

Are there actually 2 cylinder heads needed for every crankshaft out there ...? Question

Did you produce a prototype street/strip head? Care to post pics and info? Sounds interesting

YES ... almost 5 years ago, now.  The particulars along with actual dyno results are on this site somewhere; from years ago.
The head is now at Pro-Max as they are the last ones to say NO because they believe the market for a big block Ford head is now to saturated for them to make a profit.

Was that before or after the AFR head release Randy?

OVER 5 years ago ... Pro Max was a year ago; they still have that head in their possession.

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Post  68formalGT on April 30th 2017, 11:43 am

rmcomprandy wrote:
68formalGT wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
SLord82 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:If you approach almost all the major cylinder head manufacturers out there, they will almost call you a liar for trying to tell them there IS a genuine interest in the marketplace to produce good Street/Strip type heads for the 385 series engine.  Mad

Even when you will give them a finished prototype and they won't need to suffer any engineering costs.

There just isn't any market for such a product; yea ... right. That's the opinion they have. Rolling Eyes

I remember over ten years ago that the aftermarket manufacturers could not be convinced that forged steel crankshafts for these 385 engines would be a viable product. scratch  

Are there actually 2 cylinder heads needed for every crankshaft out there ...? Question

Did you produce a prototype street/strip head? Care to post pics and info? Sounds interesting

YES ... almost 5 years ago, now.  The particulars along with actual dyno results are on this site somewhere; from years ago.
The head is now at Pro-Max as they are the last ones to say NO because they believe the market for a big block Ford head is now to saturated for them to make a profit.

Was that before or after the AFR head release Randy?

OVER 5 years ago ... Pro Max was a year ago.

Crazy when you consider how many 24* small and big block chevy heads there are out there. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a pair but you can't find a pair of P-51's and they've been on the market for quite a few years. That should show the market definitely isn't saturated in the Big Block Ford market.
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Post  rmcomprandy on April 30th 2017, 11:49 am

68formalGT wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
68formalGT wrote:

Was that before or after the AFR head release Randy?

OVER 5 years ago ... Pro Max was a year ago.

Crazy when you consider how many 24* small and big block chevy heads there are out there. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a pair but you can't find a pair of P-51's and they've been on the market for quite a few years. That should show the market definitely isn't saturated in the Big Block Ford market.

You're singing to the choir here. scratch

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