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Post  460bronco on March 24th 2018, 3:22 am

Hey guys! I went to lights out 9 back in February and watched these cars in person and it was unbelievable. I saw a few ford powered cars and that was awesome. One guy had a NT new model black mustang with gen 2 Thor heads that was hauling the mail. I also met a guy by the name of Cheyenne Stanley that was super cool who ran a C-headed 632 from Kentucky!

Anyways, let’s bench race a little and talk about what kind of ford set-up it would take to be in the hunt in this rediculous RvsW class. #1 qualifier went 3.62 last night!!!!

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Post  supervel45 on March 24th 2018, 7:51 am

I don't know. I do know this, Micke has the coontune on that GBody. The 3.64/220 and 3.67/221 passes have insane MPH. They are within a tenth of the ProMod times.

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Post  460bronco on March 24th 2018, 2:56 pm

Yeah at lights out 9 the first time he ran I was expecting a mid 4 second pass cause it looked like a regular old g-body, then it busted into the 3’s and everybody went crazy! That car is hauling the mail
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Post  dfree383 on March 24th 2018, 2:58 pm

supervel45 wrote:I don't know. I do know this, Micke has the coontune on that GBody. The 3.64/220 and 3.67/221 passes have insane MPH. They are within a tenth of the ProMod times.

They are Pro-Mods, on Radials
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE on March 25th 2018, 3:01 am

supervel45 wrote:........passes have insane MPH.........

It's a byproduct of the traction control/boost control/timing control boxes ramping the big power back in down track after the soft launch to dead-hook the radials.
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Post  460bronco on March 25th 2018, 9:01 am

Do y’all enjoy watching this type of class?
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Post  supervel45 on March 25th 2018, 9:26 am

DILLIGASDAVE wrote:
supervel45 wrote:........passes have insane MPH.........

It's a byproduct of the traction control/boost control/timing control boxes ramping the big power back in down track after the soft launch to dead-hook the radials.    

I get that. What I meant was Micke picked up 6-7mph from his record that was set Jan. this year and how much higher it was then the rest of the cars in the field for this race. IE he is making some serious HP.

Radial Racing is pretty good I think. Any drag racing with fast cars that is not cookie cutter boring like Pro Stock works for me. Cool

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Post  supervel45 on March 25th 2018, 9:34 am

PS: Dave the Micke car is also running a 2 speed TH400 with a lock up converter, that he builds. I suspect that helps his MPH?

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Post  Mike R on March 25th 2018, 8:37 pm

460bronco wrote:Do y’all enjoy watching this type of class?

Very much, it's real, run wutchya brung drag racing. The only rules are minimum weight for your combo and tires

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Post  Mike R on March 25th 2018, 8:41 pm

Micke took home a hundred grand, took out Barry Mills for the final 3.72 at 214

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Post  460bronco on March 25th 2018, 8:49 pm

They said Micke was running a 540ish stock bore space BBC with twin 94mm turbos and was making 4000hp!

This level of power is crazy! Could a ford combo with C-heads do this? It would be so cool to see a die hard ford guy in the mix!
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Post  NITROUS FORD on March 25th 2018, 9:00 pm

i think mike murello is making somewhere in the neighbor hood of 3500hp with a460 heads and 540bbf! could be wrong! Shocked

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Post  68formalGT on March 25th 2018, 10:56 pm

Keith Szabo just won a big no prep race with a twin turbo big block Ford. What's he run on a super sticky, very well preped track?
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Post  supervel45 on April 14th 2018, 1:21 am

460bronco wrote:They said Micke was running a 540ish stock bore space BBC with twin 94mm turbos and was making 4000hp!

This level of power is crazy!  Could a ford combo with C-heads do this?  It would be so cool to see a die hard ford guy in the mix!

Micke is running a 4.84" space 548 all billet block and I believe spread port ( A Symetrical or whatever you call it, like a Ford) billet heads, at around 80lbs of boost. It also has been said that his lock up converter 2spd Th400 acts as a 4sp. by locking and unlocking the converter during the run.

I believe the 2sd. lockup deal is just part of his edge, he has the HP as seen from the MPH and it is dialed in to the max.

The car has been around for over 20 years and is also heavily after market supported and sponsered by the big players.

If you put the money and support behind a 4.9" bore space all billet engine at the same level, I think it would compete or run better.

Would either one (ie Micke's 548) be much like a 4.9" BS Ford or 4.84" BS Chevy with parts off the shelf in current production is the more the question?

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Post  68formalGT on April 14th 2018, 2:37 am

Lots of development happens when you offer weight breaks also, look at what it's done for the power glide. Does Mike get a break for running a 2 speed T-400 because it's a "2" speed?
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Post  Mike R on April 14th 2018, 2:49 pm

RVW rules

ANY CHASSIS PERMITTED
WHEELIE BARS PERMITTED
ANY TRANSMISSION PERMITTED
DUAL POWER ADDERS (PROHIBITED)
WEIGHTS LISTED BELOW ARE FOR RADIAL ENTRY (315 DOT) (3062R) (3362R)
+50 LBS (BB TT/SCREW ONLY) for any (PRO MOD CHASSIS) Tech Discretion
-50 LBS (Stock Wheelbase) (does not apply to roots blower combo)

** -50# for stock suspension (suspension for year make model car only)

SB N/A NO WEIGHT
BB N/A 2100 LBS
SB NOS No Weight Limit
BB NOS 2225 LBS (4.840 BORE ENGINES)
BB NOS 2275 LBS (5.00 BORE ENGINES)
BB NOS 2325 LBS (OVER 5.00 BORE ENGINES)

SB SINGLE TURBO 2400 LBS
SB TWIN TURBO 2400 LBS (Stock Bore Space)
SB TWIN TURBO 2500 LBS (Non-Stock Bore Space)
SB TWIN TURBO (500 CU IN +) 2850 LBS
-150 lbs. for SB TWIN TURBO (Cast Block / Cast Head)
-150 lbs. for SB TWIN TURBO (Inline Head) (Cant Combine with Cast Block / Cast Head Rule)

SB PROCHARGER 2400 LBS (-50 lbs. for Cast Block / Cast Head Combo)
BB PROCHARGER 2525 LBS (-50 lbs. for Cast Block / Cast Head Combo)

BB TWIN TURBO 3000 LBS (106 Turbos & bigger)
BB TWIN TURBO 2950 LBS (102's and smaller)
BB TWIN TURBO (4.840 Stock Bore Space) 2800 LBS (No 481X / No Hemi)
BB TWIN SUPERCHARGER 2900 LBS
BB Single Turbo 2575 LBS
4 cyl. combos 1950 LBS (Production Engines Only)
6 cyl. combos 2500 LBS (Production Engines Only)

BB ROOTS BLOWER 2600 LBS
SB SCREW 2400 LBS
BB SCREW 2925 LBS

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Post  68formalGT on April 14th 2018, 7:28 pm

So the BS goes from 4.84" and then jumps to 5.00", if you run a BB Ford do you fall under the weight class of the 4.84" BS because it's a factory spacing?
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