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Post  bruno on December 16th 2009, 11:05 pm

a sneak peak of the new TFS Mafia Intake manifold courtesy of Charlie Evans




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Post  Lem Evans on December 16th 2009, 11:09 pm

Good deal...now the chinese a making a copy as we speak ....pro-comp/hobbs gonna have the 1st one .


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Post  kjett on December 16th 2009, 11:09 pm

That was right on time! Looks like a sweet piece of aluminum! Twisted Evil
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Post  richter69 on December 16th 2009, 11:15 pm

I better be on top of the waiting list damn it!!!!
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Post  c.evans on December 16th 2009, 11:18 pm

Don't worry Lem. They (the Chinese) won't get the runner taper right. As you know, the manifold has been in the hands of Darin Morgan, and he has taken all of his measurements, done the calculations and has given it his stamp of approval.

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Post  richter69 on December 16th 2009, 11:20 pm

Lem Evans wrote:Good deal...now the chinese a making a copy as we speak ....pro-comp/hobbs gonna have the 1st one .


yeah it will "look" like the real deal, but as usual the performance will be very lacking..........
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Post  kjett on December 16th 2009, 11:23 pm

richter69 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:Good deal...now the chinese a making a copy as we speak ....pro-comp/hobbs gonna have the 1st one .


yeah it will "look" like the real deal, but as usual the performance will be very lacking..........

Lacking or cracking? Maybe both......
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Post  c.evans on December 16th 2009, 11:25 pm

richter69 wrote:I better be on top of the waiting list damn it!!!!

Jon,

Let's see. At the last Winter Tech Seminar, Bret Powell, Colin Wigle and Randy Bischel went on top of the list. Then Blake Cartwright and Randy Moore, whom both did the dyno testing, are on it. So I think you are 6th on the list. Very Happy Razz

They will let us know when the manifolds are ready, and then you'll be able to get them through Lem at B.F. Evans Raceparts.

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Post  bruno on December 16th 2009, 11:34 pm

Charlie am i right to say that these manifolds saw a 15+ hp increase over a ported victor
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Post  IcallhimGeorge on December 16th 2009, 11:48 pm

were there any major upgrades to this intake over the 4150 version?

I cant say from those pics it looks any different than mine.
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Post  billandlori on December 16th 2009, 11:54 pm

Wow, is that ever a sweet lookin piece!!

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Post  bruno on December 16th 2009, 11:56 pm

IcallhimGeorge wrote:were there any major upgrades to this intake over the 4150 version?

I cant say from those pics it looks any different than mine.

as quoted from Charlie

It is very similiar to the current Track heat manifold, however the carb pad now accepts 4500 Dominator, the runners were ported and raised.
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Post  IcallhimGeorge on December 16th 2009, 11:58 pm

very nice!


Hopefully by next winter Lem will be getting a phone call. Cool
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Post  richter69 on December 17th 2009, 12:23 am

c.evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:I better be on top of the waiting list damn it!!!!

Jon,

Let's see. At the last Winter Tech Seminar, Bret Powell, Colin Wigle and Randy Bischel went on top of the list. Then Blake Cartwright and Randy Moore, whom both did the dyno testing, are on it. So I think you are 6th on the list. Very Happy Razz

They will let us know when the manifolds are ready, and then you'll be able to get them through Lem at B.F. Evans Raceparts.

Charlie


6th works for me.......... Very Happy
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Post  Bret Powell on December 17th 2009, 12:33 am

Boy am I honored! 1st on the list!!! Like a Star @ heaven Charlie what is the target RPM window for oh let's say 470"? Are the exits just a bit on the small side for custom fitting or pretty much CJ sized?

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Post  56Tbird on December 17th 2009, 12:42 am

Lem Evans wrote:Good deal...now the chinese a making a copy as we speak ....pro-comp/hobbs gonna have the 1st one .
Maybe the Red chinese would like to see your new AVATAR Twisted Evil king
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Post  c.evans on December 17th 2009, 1:26 am

Bret Powell wrote:Boy am I honored! 1st on the list!!! Like a Star @ heaven Charlie what is the target RPM window for oh let's say 470"? Are the exits just a bit on the small side for custom fitting or pretty much CJ sized?

Thanks, Bret

Bret,

The runners are like they were at last year's Winter Tech Seminar. They are tall and narrow with room for you to do some left and right port matching to your CJ ports. You were the one saying you wanted a "Super Victor" for the Ford, so we're trying our best to give you one. The thing to remember was that we back to back tested it against a couple of fully ported Victors that had plenty of plenum work, radiusing and etc.

On Randy's P-51 headed 562 CID engine, it made peak torque of 787 @ 6,000 rpm and 950.6 @ 6700, 950.6 @ 6800, 951.3 @ 6900, and 950.7 @ 7000 rpm, and that's where we stopped the dyno pulls. I don't know, in hindsight maybe we should have taken them higher. I'll leave it up to you and Colin to really take it upstairs, but I see no reason why it won't feed a 470 CID engine at 8,800 rpm or so. I expect you to fully port yours, but at least you'll have something better to begin with out of the box. Wink

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Post  jones on December 17th 2009, 9:24 am

That's a nice looking intake.

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Post  the Coug on December 17th 2009, 9:58 am

yes Bruno they are to be worth 15 hp over a worked victor. which will be nice....... Very Happy they are sweet manifolds....


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Post  IDT-572 on December 17th 2009, 10:19 am

IcallhimGeorge wrote:were there any major upgrades to this intake over the 4150 version?

I cant say from those pics it looks any different than mine.

Chris,

There is over two pounds of Aluminum wire welded into that manifold. There is a ton of work that can't be seen from the pictures. I know how many hours Charlie has in it welding and porting. I doubt anyone would want to pay to have it done , and I don't know if Charlie would want to take on another one. ( MAJOR AMOUNT OF R-D AND WORK)
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Post  Bret Powell on December 17th 2009, 10:35 am

It's really what TFS should have done in the first place instead of making something so similar to the 15 year old Victor we already had. It's also really a shame it takes someone like Charlie to have to make something and make contacts so to speak.... that should have been researched and built by a manufacturer. I really appreciate it and hope Charlie gets something for all the hard work and efforts.

Meanwhile perhaps Edelbrock will tool up and make another dozen styles of BBC intakes to fit a BBC. Rolling Eyes

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Post  schmitty on December 17th 2009, 11:03 am

Bret Powell wrote:Meanwhile perhaps Edelbrock will tool up and make another dozen styles of BBC intakes to fit a BBC. Rolling Eyes

Thanks, Bret

Yep they keep trying to figure out a way to make some power with that motor. All I can say is good luck. Laughing
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Post  KY JELLY on December 17th 2009, 11:40 am

I think Charlie , Lem, Phillip, Jet Boat Bob , Laws , and I am even going to add Blake to this list all deserve a pat on the back for making this happen. They have all spent time, money , etc on welding ,porting , tuning, designing cams and time and money on the dyno with different engine and head combination's.

I don't care what anybody says when you can get 890-950+ hp out of a naturally aspirated conventional headed engine you have done something. I don't think everyone appreciates what an accomplishment that is in its self.
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Post  bbf-falcon on December 17th 2009, 12:49 pm

Well put Randy, and i'm glad to say I know most of that group of VERY smart men, and call them my friends. Very Happy

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Post  D. Sea on December 17th 2009, 1:03 pm

Anyone want to buy a ported Victor? Razz


Hats off to all the guys that had a hand in this project. Well done!
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