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Post  bruno on August 7th 2018, 5:04 pm

What is the fastest anyone has been on welded up factory torque boxes ? When is the aftermarket boxes needed ?
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Post  bigblokfoxs on August 8th 2018, 9:49 am

I will get this started..I am sure there are better numbers out there.
With stock unmodified torque box configuration, to date my car has run 5.80 1/8th, (9.10 1/4). Short time 1.30.
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Post  bruno on August 9th 2018, 1:17 pm

nice numbers , what cylinder heads ?
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FOX BODY SS

Post  bigblokfoxs on August 9th 2018, 2:54 pm

Kaase P51's with a little touch up. CR is 14.25

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Re: Foxbody SS question

Post  larry552 on August 9th 2018, 3:09 pm

I've been 5.08 and 5.09 with a 1.18 60ft. In 1/8 mile. 580in A-head motor on a single fogger I have been thinking about upgrading to the aftermarket lowers. In your case with a new fresh build I probably install the aftermarket stuff.
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Post  bruno on August 9th 2018, 4:55 pm

bigblokfoxs wrote:Kaase P51's with a little touch up. CR is 14.25

Nice
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Post  bruno on August 9th 2018, 4:56 pm

larry552 wrote:I've been 5.08 and 5.09 with a 1.18 60ft. In 1/8 mile. 580in A-head motor on a single fogger I have been thinking about upgrading to the aftermarket lowers. In your case with a new fresh build I probably install the aftermarket stuff.

what have you done to your torque boxes ? weld the seems ? added material ?
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Re: Foxbody SS question

Post  larry552 on August 9th 2018, 7:26 pm

The uppers are reinforced because they were pulling apart and the lowers are tacked with the reinforced kit added
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Re: Foxbody SS question

Post  jbozzelle on August 14th 2018, 11:33 am

If your uppers are not abused I'd recommend welding them and running the support tubes from the inside of the upper boxes forward to the main hoop.

But if you're looking for the maximum in adjustability of the upper arms (think ride height here) then just go with the aftermarket stuff and be done with it...

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Post  dfree383 on August 14th 2018, 3:12 pm

Going fast on the stock torque boxes isn't the problem, having them last is.

Weld, Plate and sandwich bolt them up and do Like John suggested by adding bars from the cage to the mounting points.
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Post  jbozzelle on August 14th 2018, 3:27 pm

Here's what you do Nick...

Mock up at ride height and see what the intersect points look like and if they'll work with the power you plan to make.

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Post  bruno on August 14th 2018, 9:06 pm

jbozzelle wrote:Here's what you do Nick...

Mock up at ride height and see what the intersect points look like and if they'll work with the power you plan to make.  

not understanding about what you are saying ??
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Post  jbozzelle on August 14th 2018, 11:57 pm

The rear suspension bars in a Fox like a certain ride height to get the correct instant center (IC) and let the rear suspension function properly. Raising or lowering the ride height affects the IC.

If I was building one with stock suspension and a high HP/torque engine I'd make sure my ride height would put the IC where it needs to be and let that determine the money that needs to be spent...

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Post  bruno on August 15th 2018, 10:04 am

jbozzelle wrote:The rear suspension bars in a Fox like a certain ride height to get the correct instant center (IC) and let the rear suspension function properly.  Raising or lowering the ride height affects the IC.

If I was building one with stock suspension and a high HP/torque engine I'd make sure my ride height would put the IC where it needs to be and let that determine the money that needs to be spent...

understand, getting impatient , needs this done asap .... but i would rather do it once and put the right stuff under the car .

Do you guys have an opinion on whos upper and lower boxes are the best ?
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Re: Foxbody SS question

Post  larry552 on August 15th 2018, 12:21 pm

TeamZ are good. I run UPR on my car. Baseline suspension seems to have some nice uppers that I want to try.
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Post  dfree383 on August 15th 2018, 2:25 pm

I’ve used our stuff in the past and have some grannitelli stuff going on my stocker, but I do have certain rules to follow
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Post  bruno on August 15th 2018, 4:44 pm

dfree383 wrote:I’ve used our stuff in the past and have some grannitelli stuff going on my stocker, but I do have certain rules to follow

"our stuff" ????
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Re: Foxbody SS question

Post  Mike R on August 15th 2018, 7:28 pm

I'm looking hard at the Wild Rides upper and lower S-Boxes' looks like some good parts, and you're right do it once and be done. It's a lot easier to do the work while the cars apart than to have to tear it up later

https://wildridesracecars.com/shop/ford/new-lower-s-box-adjustable-lower-torque-box-replacement-kit/

https://wildridesracecars.com/shop/ford/new-s-box-adjustable-upper-torque-box-replacement-kit/

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Post  dfree383 on August 16th 2018, 11:02 am

bruno wrote:
dfree383 wrote:I’ve used our stuff in the past and have some grannitelli stuff going on my stocker, but I do have certain rules to follow

"our stuff" ????

Other.... Sorry, Fat Finger Typo
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Post  bruno on August 16th 2018, 8:58 pm

Mike R wrote:I'm looking hard at the Wild Rides upper and lower S-Boxes' looks like some good parts, and you're right do it once and be done. It's a lot easier to do the work while the cars apart than to have to tear it up later

https://wildridesracecars.com/shop/ford/new-lower-s-box-adjustable-lower-torque-box-replacement-kit/

https://wildridesracecars.com/shop/ford/new-s-box-adjustable-upper-torque-box-replacement-kit/

yes i had looked at there stuff.
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