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Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  racinghabbit on January 5th 2019, 8:00 pm

Scorpion 1024 vs 1056 ? What’s the difference there catalog doesn’t say
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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  samiam on January 5th 2019, 11:09 pm

I've read the 1056 has a larger body and requires less shimming,, but same as you, I couldnt get any real info
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Post  racinghabbit on January 6th 2019, 12:02 am

I’m buying pushrods anyway so do I need to worry about shims?
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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  69F100 on January 6th 2019, 9:59 am

When you order the push rods call Smith Brothers they will build you any length you need . I will only buy my push rods from them now on.
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Post  gt350hr on January 7th 2019, 3:07 pm

There are some really inexperienced people over on that forum.

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Post  racinghabbit on January 7th 2019, 6:07 pm

I made a last minute decision change.. I ordered the crane stud kit 52655-16 and a set of comp 17045-16 rockers.
I have done pushrod length plenty of times and it will just be better for me.
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Post  rmcomprandy on January 7th 2019, 8:38 pm

racinghabbit wrote:I made a last minute decision change.. I ordered the crane stud kit 52655-16 and a set of comp 17045-16 rockers.
I have done pushrod length plenty of times and it will just be better for me.

Good luck ... it is less sturdy than the bolt down rocker system but, it will be more adjustable.

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Post  racinghabbit on January 8th 2019, 12:59 am

Anything has to be better than the failed stock rockers, that sent tons of metal threw the lower end and taking out my bearings
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Post  racinghabbit on January 9th 2019, 11:08 am


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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  Wayne Pearce on January 9th 2019, 11:58 am

I had these on my daughters 429 Fox body. I was skeptical of them, but she put a rod through the side of the block before any of the rocker studs failed.

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Post  racinghabbit on January 15th 2019, 9:35 am

There noisy! I used a very similar setup on a small block a few years back and had the same issue.. seems like the pushrod and that plastic guide make the noise. But functions great
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Post  racinghabbit on January 15th 2019, 9:36 am

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Post  torino501 on January 15th 2019, 10:57 am

racinghabbit wrote:Anything has to be better than the failed stock rockers, that sent tons of metal threw the lower end and taking out my bearings

TOto strong of a spring for the factory stamped rockers.

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Post  69F100 on January 16th 2019, 5:17 am

I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.
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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  Mark Miller on January 17th 2019, 12:18 am

69F100 wrote:I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.


Same here had them on my 460 with D3VE heads a long time ago and also had the studs coming loose!!! Smile

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Post  racinghabbit on January 17th 2019, 11:17 am

how did you notice there was an issue?
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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  69F100 on January 17th 2019, 12:41 pm

Lifters would get noisey or it would start skipping and bend a push rod
I always kept a extra push rod in the glove box with allen wrench and a 5/8 end wrench fix it on the side of the road
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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  Paul Kane on January 17th 2019, 12:47 pm

racinghabbit wrote:Scorpion 1024 vs 1056 ? What’s the difference there catalog doesn’t say...I made a last minute decision change...I ordered the crane stud kit 52655-16 and a set of comp 17045-16 rockers...it will just be better for me. Anything has to be better than the failed stock rockers, that sent tons of metal through the lower end and taking out my bearings
I don’t know the details of your current engine build, just want to emphasize that when properly set up and optimized the OEM pedestal rocker arm valve train has numerous attributes over the aftermarket rocker arms and stud system you are considering instead.  I’ve known the OEM stamped steel rocker D3 valve train to be used successfully (and long term) in engines wth cams over 0.600” lift. And I don’t think I’d do that with the Crane stud conversion kit.  Again, it really depends on the details and needs of the build.
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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  BOSS 429 on January 17th 2019, 8:01 pm

Mark Miller wrote:
69F100 wrote:I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.


Same here had them on my 460 with D3VE heads a long time ago and also had the studs coming loose!!! Smile




what did were you guys tq the studs to?
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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  Mark Miller on January 17th 2019, 11:23 pm

BOSS 429 wrote:
Mark Miller wrote:
69F100 wrote:I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.


Same here had them on my 460 with D3VE heads a long time ago and also had the studs coming loose!!! Smile




what did were you guys tq the studs to?


I don't remember this was probably in the early 90's and if the Crane Conversion gave a torque rating that's probably what I torqued them too!! Smile

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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  Mark O'Neal on January 18th 2019, 12:24 am

BOSS 429 wrote:
Mark Miller wrote:
69F100 wrote:I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.


Same here had them on my 460 with D3VE heads a long time ago and also had the studs coming loose!!! Smile




what did were you guys tq the studs to?



Medium low tight with a 1/2" drive.

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Re: Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Post  racinghabbit on January 18th 2019, 10:54 am

i put mine at 25ftlb with red lock tight.
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