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Post  billandlori on February 1st 2010, 2:46 pm

[quote="dfree383"]
billandlori wrote:
cletus66 wrote:
nickbay wrote:I wonder how that would work in my '67 with a C6 and a 2.75:1 rear. 160 mph @ 5500 rpm. Shocked I would get arrested on the highway.. Embarassed

They got to catch you first!!! Twisted Evil

That kind of torque will pull a trailer inside-out. Great build!!

Bill

You can't out run Motorola....

You got a point there!!

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Post  dfree383 on February 1st 2010, 3:13 pm

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dfree383 wrote:
billandlori wrote:
cletus66 wrote:
nickbay wrote:I wonder how that would work in my '67 with a C6 and a 2.75:1 rear. 160 mph @ 5500 rpm. Shocked I would get arrested on the highway.. Embarassed

They got to catch you first!!! Twisted Evil

That kind of torque will pull a trailer inside-out. Great build!!

Bill

You can't out run Motorola....

You got a point there!!

Bill

Ask me how I know.......... Smile Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post  billandlori on February 1st 2010, 3:22 pm

Was that you I saw on "Worlds Scariest Police Chases" last night???? Shocked Laughing

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Post  TravisRice on March 10th 2010, 6:07 pm

bump for a good read..

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Post  jones on March 10th 2010, 6:35 pm

I'm going to move this to the Proven engine build section.

I got looking for it the other day and couldn't find it because it was in the engine tech.

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Post  Lem Evans on March 10th 2010, 6:55 pm

It is engine tech....but it'd be good in 'proven' also.

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Post  res0rli9 on March 26th 2010, 12:32 am

Lem.. any updates on this build, is it in the truck and running and if so hows it doing, and what kind of gas mileage???


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Post  Lem Evans on March 26th 2010, 11:35 am

As soon as the headers get worked out we'll get the engine into the truck.

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Post  res0rli9 on March 26th 2010, 3:40 pm

10/4

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502 F350 engine - Page 3 Empty Would like to build this engine and put it in one of my 54 Lincolns

Post  Mike_Kendall on August 4th 2010, 1:45 am

Lem,
This is an awesome engine! I have posted for help on 460ford.com asking for advise on what parts to purchase to build a 460, tranny, rear-end to put into a 1954 Lincoln. The Lincoln is stout, weighs 4250lbs stock, and has a welded and boxed X-frame stock from factory. I've seen two other 54's on the net with 460's in them but no contact info. just pictures. The stock 317 Y-block is heavy. A guy with a 53 in town claimed that when he put a 350 in his he took about 200lbs off the front of vehicle so the 460 should be able to be leveled out easy. If you would be willing to email me at michael.kendall@ymail.com or just pass on more details I would really like to build this. I'm willing to go more cubic inches in stroke with the same build if it makes sense. Here is the origional post with pictures: http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147372&highlight=1954+lincoln Will I be able to use a stock C-6 tranny or will I need to get one of the high performance ones from a place such as summit?
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Post  Lem Evans on August 4th 2010, 9:43 am

I'm not a trans expert.....the guys that are will jump in . I doubt Summit would be the place to get one.

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Post  iadr on August 8th 2010, 4:46 pm

As at least a couple members know, I am trying to gather info for a similarly cammed, similar displacement combo.
It's actually a Mercruiser 4, which as many know is based on the 460.

Couple ques-
- Head wise, I'm thinking a good step bigger- I'm thinking p51 or really, Boss9...and with a single plane converted to EFI... so a little more accurate fueling, possibly a little less cylinder pressure through the bottom RPM's
- Cam I am thinking about is a Lunati, intended for Chrysler, but I've done some investigation and it will borderline work with .874 lifters.
Looking at the Comp book, those look like lobes 5432&5202- 262/270 but only 128 & 132 @ .200. I'm looking at lobes 265/220/138/.555 and 271/226/145/.576. So 10 & 12 degress bigger at .200. (but only 3 & 1 @ adv.) What will that do to the RPM range? Ideally that loses nothing at the bottom but carries the range further up, making some more midrange in the process. Has anyone seen that for real? Wink
With the bigger ports and bigger cam is there anything in the combo that this thread is about, that really becomes "wrong", if you start looking at a few hundred more RPM? In other words, what's the order of factors making it nose over?
- how close to the edge of detonation is this? considering I am willing to feed it straight 92-93 pump, and live at 2100-2600 feet, how much more could I get away with- +0.7 to 1.0 ?

- what diameter headers did you dyno with, btw?

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Post  Lem Evans on August 8th 2010, 5:20 pm

I think the headers were 1-7/8". With 92-93 fuel I'd think another point of compression ratio would be okay.
I'm not a 4 cyl. expert but, being that you will be cutting the displacement of the engine to 1/2 a lot of tq. will disappear. Going bigger on the cyl. head intake port and bigger on the cam will require more gear and rpm.
I'm not sure what you are gonna do with the engine but, with the comp. ratio and hyd. cam I'd assume it's not a racing engine.....if that is the case I think the TFS street/strip or FRPP SCJ heads would be a better choice than the bigger valve/port heads.

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Post  iadr on August 8th 2010, 7:10 pm

No reason to think that the torque will drop off more than the math suggests: 50% Wink
Not that I know it all, for darn sure I don't...
You are thinking of losing the tuning in a dual plane manifold, maybe?
There's that, yeah. That ones a bit of an unknown, or not really- it's like a Torker, really. or just a bit better, the one I have made a little photochop of cutting in half.
Not real sure there's much else, maybe that the parasitic's are going to be a little more than proportionate- the oil pump, the water pump, the mains friction, but it shouldn't be really significant.
I don't think those together are going to knock more than 10-11 lb ft off. I'm not sure about the intake, though. One reason I am going small with the cam.
I'll be dissappointed if I don't see 300lb-ft.

Set on kill, I should be able to make & hold 335 lbs-ft until it would be well over 400 hp- right before it went boom. affraid You are right, that's not what I am looking for, though--- this will be backed up from that quite a bit!


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Post  Lem Evans on August 8th 2010, 7:22 pm

"You are thinking of losing the tuning in a dual plane manifold, maybe?"
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I'm thinking I do not know much about a 4 cyl. Smile

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Post  iadr on August 8th 2010, 7:38 pm

hah, you are too modest! Too busy Doing while I'm busy reading, just maybe!

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Post  Blownshotgun on August 15th 2010, 10:28 am

Awesome build there Lem!!

If this was to go into a lighter F100 with SCJ heads & a 4.3 or 4.5 stroke....

How reliable do you think it'd be?

For a 3,000 pound towing application.

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Post  Lem Evans on August 15th 2010, 11:10 am

SCJs , 4.300" , 6.800" rod and keep the comp. moderate......should be fun for a long time.

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Post  Lem Evans on December 17th 2011, 6:30 pm

Bump for Mike P.

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Post  61coon on May 14th 2012, 2:12 pm

I know it's been a while since anyone posted on this thread,but I was just looking back on it and was wondering if the engine is in the truck and how it's doing? Awesome build....


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Post  IDT-572 on May 14th 2012, 2:12 pm

Wow your fast Cool
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Post  61coon on May 14th 2012, 2:13 pm

IDT-572 wrote:Wow your fast Cool

Lol,after we were talking about it, I had to ask Very Happy
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Post  Lem Evans on May 14th 2012, 7:34 pm

Seems it is the same as selling a new vehicle....no news is good news Smile Someone else inquired about the build a few months ago and I called the owner....he's happy with the combo.

This deal is a real pussy cat.....idle, manners etc. One can ease the clutch out and it'll just walk away w/o touching the gas pedal....when the vacuum secondarys come open the show is on Very Happy


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Post  res0rli9 on May 14th 2012, 8:51 pm

What kinda gas mileage dose this monster get.

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Post  SandHillsHillbilly on February 11th 2015, 9:36 am

Had to resurrect this!

Awesome build. Care to share the ignition timing numbers? Initial and total?
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