Heating your bottles ?

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Post  droppedf100 on Sat 23 Jan - 17:56

Copperhead wrote:Propane Torch.
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I know it's not technically / politically correct, but as long as you move the flame around and don't hold it in one spot, you'll be fine. bom


Im suprised with the way your truck is detailed lol. I figured your bottle was painted to match the truck.

Anyway I use a torch all the time even though I have a normal bottle heater. You pretty much have to when its cold or on the street. Btw my truck is street driven to the track so I have no fancy trailer hook ups or warm baths. Its whatever fits in the truck Very Happy

I personally never saw a bottle explode. Im not saying it cant happen I just never seen it with my own eyes. And alot of people use them at my local track.

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Post  the Coug on Sat 23 Jan - 18:35

why does everyone cring when heated with a torch if you keep an eye on the pressure and it does not exceed the limit it will be ok thats the only thing to worry about it is an oxidiser unless you have something to burn, it will just explode or pop the over pressure relief....... but the relief should go way before the bottle........I can say I never did heat mine but I always made sure they were 90+% @ 27* full instead of the 60% @ room temp most fillers do.....



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Post  richter69 on Sat 23 Jan - 18:41

the Coug wrote:why does everyone cring when heated with a torch if you keep an eye on the pressure and it does not exceed the limit it will be ok thats the only thing to worry about it is an oxidiser unless you have something to burn, it will just explode or pop the over pressure relief....... but the relief should go way before the bottle........I can say I never did heat mine but I always made sure they were 90+% @ 27* full instead of the 60% @ room temp most fillers do.....



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Concentrated heat in one spot too long on aluminum is a disaster waiting to happen. If the heat is evenly distributed its ok.........I'd still use a water bath, or the truck heater or something other than a torch.

Deal with a used bottle is you don't know if its been heated with a torch by a dumbass.

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Post  DILLIGASDAVE on Sat 23 Jan - 20:15

richter69 wrote:I'd still use a water bath, or the truck heater or something other than a torch.

With my Cleveland stuff there was never enough nitrous used to really worry about heating the bottle. But as fat as NOS's factory jetting was some extra bottle pressure might have been usefull. One down side of heating the bottle is if your solenoids wont open (or open consistently) at higher bottle pressures. I have tried the truck floor heater deal on one guy's car cuz that's how he has always done it for years, and it works great as long as you don't get stuck waiting in the staging lanes long cuz of an oil down or crash.

I have been thinking that someone (if they have crew members at the track) could easily keep an extra 12V battery with long cables & quick disconnects sitting somewhere on a pit/tow vehicle to power the bottle heater in the car while in the lanes so the heater doesn't drain the race car battery.

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Post  BigDave65 on Sat 23 Jan - 22:44

I think several of the sanctioning bodies have outlawed use of propane torches on bottles.

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Post  valleydawg on Thu 25 Feb - 10:57

After all the talk I decided to change my old ways when in a jam. Starting this year I will have a bottle blanket on and I have a battery mounted on the four wheeler. What do you think? [/img]

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Post  paulie9fingers on Thu 25 Feb - 11:53

I've been using Nitrous since the early 80's and we started using torches or putting the bottle in front of the exhaust on the generator, that's just what you did back in the day Wink . We now use the hot water bath, it also helps maintain a more consistant bottle pressure because the entire bottle and it's contents are at the same temp instead of random areas of the bottle. We spray 3 sytstems on the 698 and 2 BIG ones on the 427 smallblock and the pressure is much more stable (as shown on the Data logger) and the tune much more consistant with the hot water bath.

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Post  valleydawg on Thu 25 Feb - 12:09

I also use a hot water bath heating my bottles in the trailer but sometimes when you wait for ever in line you need a quick fix or a quick hit. Now I will use the blanket and not a small torch.

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Post  whatbumper on Thu 25 Feb - 21:32

I know guys (and gal) that run in the ADRL that use a small catalyst style camping heater like you have in a golf cart or something. There is now open flame but you can heat the bottles quickly.

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Post  '65 T-BOLT on Thu 25 Feb - 21:39

throw them in the camp fire for a few minutes! Twisted Evil

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