Big Hp looking at 1200hp And up, on conv head 460 based block

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Post  Spencer Elton on February 15th 2010, 2:23 pm

Sorry for taking so long to get back.The A 460 Heads were brought up last Real Street Meeting And Were Not Allowed,Also The GV2 Headed Windsor Motor I Have Flows 440 on intake.Thats On Kuntz's Flow Bench.Makes Over 900hp But still not enough weight difference to overcome the BBC.And being the only SB in class its hard to get the big blocks to add weight (Rule Change) Thats why im trying to get as much info on the BBF,I have Raced a 572BBF in my altred

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Post  brad on February 15th 2010, 8:01 pm

im guessing the guys throwing out the big numbers on there flow and horespower are full of it. if the a heads not allowed then you might get a set of the boss heads in there theyd flow great but not anywhere near the air those guys are telling you. if not you might be able to do alot of work to some of the scj heads or p-51s with some work they might sduprise you on a 600 inch motor with the right cam. brad

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Post  bb429power on February 15th 2010, 8:17 pm

When you guys say A head and C head, what do you mean? D0VE-C, D0VE-A?

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Post  BOSS 429 on February 15th 2010, 8:44 pm

A HEAD= A460 MOTORSPORT FORD HEAD

C HEAD= C460 MOTORSPORT HEAD

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Post  deliveredfast on February 15th 2010, 9:08 pm

the Coug wrote:
windsor wrote:You still haven't told us if you can use A460 heads or not.


Question Question Question



don't give a crap if he does or not cuz if it takes 520 cfm to make it in the Class well that shoots the TFS A460 head way out of the water... the A heads around here are conservative maybe around 460cfm or so


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I got A460 heads from Steve Vance and they flow 490 at .850 lift.


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Post  bb429power on February 15th 2010, 9:13 pm

BOSS 429 wrote:A HEAD= A460 MOTORSPORT FORD HEAD

C HEAD= C460 MOTORSPORT HEAD

Duh, it was right in front of my face how did I not catch on to that. Mad

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Post  IDT-572 on February 15th 2010, 10:10 pm

I would like to know how they can call a head that flows 520 cfm a conventional bbc head?

IDT makes an A head that flows 520 cfm , but it's a far cry from a conventional head.

Nor is a Thor or a Profiler both above 500 CFM.

I guess the bbc head design is so superior to the BBF head it's easy to get those big flow numbers out of them with out getting away from the stock lay out Laughing Evil or Very Mad

Typical chevy biased rules bull sh--. Rolling Eyes

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Post  bbf-falcon on February 15th 2010, 10:21 pm

IDT-572 wrote:I would like to know how they can call a head that flows 520 cfm a conventional bbc head?

IDT makes an A head that flows 520 cfm , but it's a far cry from a conventional head.

Nor is a Thor or a Profiler both above 500 CFM.

I guess the bbc head design is so superior to the BBF head it's easy to get those big flow numbers out of them with out getting away from the stock lay out Laughing Evil or Very Mad

Typical chevy biased rules bull sh--. Rolling Eyes


Blake, It sounds like the rules comittee is made up of all Chevy guy's,bout like the truck pullers sanctions Mad

I would like to see the info on the Chevy heads Rolling Eyes

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Post  IDT-572 on February 15th 2010, 10:24 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:I would like to know how they can call a head that flows 520 cfm a conventional bbc head?

IDT makes an A head that flows 520 cfm , but it's a far cry from a conventional head.

Nor is a Thor or a Profiler both above 500 CFM.

I guess the bbc head design is so superior to the BBF head it's easy to get those big flow numbers out of them with out getting away from the stock lay out Laughing Evil or Very Mad

Typical chevy biased rules bull sh--. Rolling Eyes


Blake, It sounds like the rules comittee is made up of all Chevy guy's,bout like the truck pullers sanctions Mad

I would like to see the info on the Chevy heads Rolling Eyes



Ditto,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Post  '65 T-BOLT on February 15th 2010, 10:28 pm

Happy Flow Bench Inc. on the brand X?

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Post  IDT-572 on February 15th 2010, 10:33 pm

'65 T-BOLT wrote:Happy Flow Bench Inc. on the brand X?



No I doubt it, they probably do flow that............. Just another screwing the ford guys are getting.

The best flowing conventional head we have other than the boss head is a P-51 Kasse.

Is there another conventional head for a Chevy, that could get to that potential?

Something we (I) are not aware of ?

Maybe the mystery engine head they used in Nascar................

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Post  windsor on February 16th 2010, 6:53 am

Well, looks like your best bet would be the P51's, unless you have the money and time to go with Boss 9's. You could get over a 1000 probably with either of them at 640 cubes, but it would be easier (and more $) with the hemi heads.

Please let us know about those chebby heads, just to cure the curiosity.

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Post  jones on February 16th 2010, 7:58 am

Yup, I think it would be interesting to hear what conventional chevy head flows thoes numbers.

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Post  Oakley Motorsports on February 16th 2010, 10:41 am

John Kyle at Apd gets over 500 cfm out of the brodix Head-hunter head With ti valves etc.

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Post  Oakley Motorsports on February 16th 2010, 11:21 am

Guys, remember it is not always about flow numbers. Where does it make power, What is the average power, How much power on the shift, how tight can I run the convertor, what are the flow numbers at 6 and 700.

Years ago we picked up my a-heads 20 numbers at peak and all I seen was a little mph and a loss in 60, 330.

Coug I understand what you are saying but Lawes and Charlie are consistently in the upper 470 and low 480's with stainless 2.350 stainless valve. My a-heads are in the 490's and a few bust 500 but not without 30 hrs of work after normal port job and combustion chamber work.

All I am trying to say is do not underestimate the A-head and its ability to produce. I beleive we are just beginning to see what the p-51 can make happen. It is going to take several guys that are capable of tuning an engine and can give good feedback to actually know what these heads can produce.

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