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Post  dfree383 on March 28th 2010, 7:22 am

Update

Picked up a used Duraspark distributor that look pretty good and feels tight from a local for $20

Received retianers, locks, cups and studs from Lem

Total cost $158

Cam from Cam Research $175

Previous total from 3-15-2010 $1544 add above for a total to date $1897 as of 3-28-2010

Head is dropped of at Blakes (IDT572) to repair the broken stud boss.
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Post  511Fox on March 28th 2010, 2:03 pm

Keep It Up Dfree383.

I am excited to see what u'll do next.

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Post  RapidRuss on March 29th 2010, 9:57 am

Very Cool Dave !! Maybe I missed it ? But how much CR are you gonna shoot for and that new bump stick is what as far as lift and duration ?

I have always liked too see what I guy could put together after a few year in racing or building..Just to see what they could do with spare parts just laying sround ! Cant wait to see what you really get out of this build and what the final Tab will be ? Cool
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Post  dfree383 on March 29th 2010, 10:17 am

It is going to have some Compression in the 12:1+ range, so its not going to be a friendly 87 octane grocery getter, but it will make the power numbers and should have a good broad range also, not a peaky "Race Engine".

Cam Specs are 258/264 @ .050 with .655/.655 Lift on a 108

Anybody care to put this info in Desk top and make some predictions? Guesses anyone? Very Happy


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Post  paulie on March 29th 2010, 11:24 am

good idea, I have been thinking of doing a similar build myself. good luck and post some pics if you can.

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Post  511Fox on April 2nd 2010, 5:03 pm

One of these days I want to do the same thing you are doing dfree383.

Good luck and our best wishes to Ya Exclamation

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Post  Doug Rahn on April 3rd 2010, 12:10 pm

dfree383 wrote:It is going to have some Compression in the 12:1+ range, so its not going to be a friendly 87 octane grocery getter, but it will make the power numbers and should have a good broad range also, not a peaky "Race Engine".

Cam Specs are 258/264 @ .050 with .655/.655 Lift on a 108

Anybody care to put this info in Desk top and make some predictions? Guesses anyone? Very Happy

When you get a chance, post some air flow numbers for the heads so I can create and air flow file and we'll see what the software I have says. It only missed mine by about 10hp and 15 ftlb. Cool project Cool Dave.
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Post  dfree383 on April 3rd 2010, 12:55 pm

Sure will. These have had some port work, I have to search around and find some stock a429 flows to see how good these ones are.
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Post  res0rli9 on April 3rd 2010, 3:26 pm

there in the head sticky chart

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Post  dfree383 on April 17th 2010, 9:25 pm

Waiting for Blake to repair the rocker boss, then it off the the seat and guide machine!!! And the....... Floooooow bench !!!!
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Post  dfree383 on April 27th 2010, 2:57 pm

Got the head back From Blake, everything looks good, need to install a heicoil and get the valve job done. May flow them the weekend of the Bash at Mikes.

Add $75 to the Cost to Date $1897 + $75 = $1972

Still Need to Machine the Block, Get some bearings and an Intake.

I have a set of 2" Dyno Headers and an Old 1050 to test out.

I also saw some nice looking tall aluminum Valve Covers on Ebay I may scoop up. the where about $75.
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Post  kjett on April 27th 2010, 3:56 pm

Dave,

Go easy on my next set of heads, now!! Very Happy
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Post  the Coug on April 27th 2010, 5:18 pm

Dave use a Keen sert or thinsert they beat the Hell out of Heli coils by a long shot....


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Post  RapidRuss on May 14th 2010, 12:29 pm

Dave, any updates on operation Cheapskate ? Or are you working to hard on tryin to get into that house Question
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Post  dfree383 on May 14th 2010, 1:51 pm

Bringing the heads with me to the bash and hoping to do a valve job and flow them.

Been busy getting the car together, paying the IRS (mother F'n robbers) and working on getting a house........ Have my eye on one but don't have as much down money as I'd like.
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Post  Maddmattmustangs on May 14th 2010, 2:05 pm

dfree383 wrote:.......paying the IRS (mother F'n robbers)........

Amen.
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Post  D. Sea on May 14th 2010, 3:03 pm

Way cool project Dave Cool

Look forward to the results....
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Post  RapidRuss on May 14th 2010, 4:44 pm

dfree383 wrote:Bringing the heads with me to the bash and hoping to do a valve job and flow them.

Been busy getting the car together, paying the IRS (mother F'n robbers) and working on getting a house........ Have my eye on one but don't have as much down money as I'd like.

Well its sounds like for the most part your staying out of trouble anyway ! just thought I'd bring this back up to the top and see how far you had come...Good Luck on the house ! Yeah the IRS is a bitch ! I owed the Vet hospital a few hundered bucks for some service I'am still getting on my foot operation...and them pricks took it out of my wife return !! Chit ! I was hot ! Evil or Very Mad
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Post  IDT-572 on May 14th 2010, 6:00 pm

kjett wrote:Dave,

Go easy on my next set of heads, now!! Very Happy

Evil or Very Mad Sorry dude I got dibs on them.................... Razz Laughing
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Post  kjett on May 17th 2010, 9:05 pm

That's cold Blake, real cold..... Sad



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Post  dfree383 on May 24th 2010, 7:12 am

Got some Flow Numbers (Left them at home......)

I will say you guys will be supprised at what a good valve job is worth..... Will Post numbers tomorrow.
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Post  RapidRuss on May 24th 2010, 7:48 am

Sounds like there a flowin there dave...cant wait to see where the numbers come in at Exclamation

Is this going to be a street/ strip build for you dave ? if so whatcha plan on stuffin it in Question
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Post  kjett on May 24th 2010, 9:01 am

RapidRuss wrote:Sounds like there a flowin there dave...cant wait to see where the numbers come in at Exclamation

Is this going to be a street/ strip build for you dave ? if so whatcha plan on stuffin it in Question

I'm hoping parts of it will find it's way into a little ranger Wink
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Post  dfree383 on May 24th 2010, 8:30 pm

Hears what the heads ended up flowing. As you can see a quality performance valve job is worth its weight in gold, I have not touched the intake ports except for the valve job. The valve job that was on these appeared to have only 2 angles and a sharp ridge, but the portwork itself looked rather nice. Lesson here is you get what you pay for in a valve job cost of the valve job $225

it should also be noted the intake valves on the befor did not have a backcut and the after numbers java a light backcut Nd that is also contributing to the excelent intake flows.

intake before valve job / after valve job.

.100 75 / 75
.200 143 / 169
.300 221 / 260
.400 293 / 319
.500 325 / 360
.600 349 / 384
.650 356 / 388
.700 358 / 391

exhaust before, after number are affected by a big ridge that need to be blended out, I'll post numbers after I get after them as the after numbers with the ridge where about the same as before. I expect improvements into the low 200's after I finish blending them.

.100 55
.200 119
.300 167
.400 186
.500 186
.600 188
.700 190


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Post  Nevs on May 24th 2010, 8:37 pm

dfree383 wrote:Hears what the heads ended up flowing. As you can see a quality performance valve job is worth its weight in gold, I have not touched the intake ports except for the valve job. The valve job that was on these appeared to have only 2 angles and a sharp ridge, but the portwork itself looked rather nice. Lesson here is you get what you pay for in a valve job cost of the valve job $225

intake before valve job / after valve job.

.100 75 / 75
.200 143 / 169
.300 221 / 260
.400 293 / 319
.500 325 / 360
.600 349 / 384
.650 356 / 388
.700 358 / 391

exhaust before, after number are affected by a big ridge that need to be blended out, I'll post numbers after I get after them as the after numbers with the ridge where about the same as before. I expect improvements into the low 200's after I finish blending them.

.100 55
.200 119
.300 167
.400 186
.500 186
.600 188
.700 190

Impressive numbers for A429's!
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