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help with factory block + head turbo build

Post  danger ranger on March 22nd 2010, 10:47 pm

need to keep stock stroke i can change bore and upgrade hardware and need factory head it can be ported i have a d0 or d1ve block and the dooe-r heads if someone could fill in the blanks it will be a single turbo im thinking
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Post  cool40 on March 22nd 2010, 11:00 pm

whats your plans for it?street,race,money pit? Laughing
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Post  danger ranger on March 22nd 2010, 11:06 pm

compete with a friend doing the same with a bbc---- and trying to get a feel of the turbo deal for a later project. it will go in a 95 ranger or a 64 comet

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Post  danger ranger on March 22nd 2010, 11:12 pm

race and i would say money pit

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Post  cool40 on March 22nd 2010, 11:15 pm

you gona drive on the street or take it to the track?if it's a pump gas deal or not?the bbc dont have a chance anyway. Laughing
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Post  danger ranger on March 22nd 2010, 11:21 pm

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Post  danger ranger on March 22nd 2010, 11:26 pm

thats the ranger about 2 years ago with a 557 but i only street raced it now that the law is getting so bad i am building a comet it is a 25.2 i was going for drag radial but not to sure now its actually a torque arm car a little diff ill have to take some pics

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Post  cool40 on March 23rd 2010, 12:00 am

bad ass ranger!ok i get the pic now.stock block will need all the help you can give it for the turbo stuff,but the stock heads will be the killer.you can only get so much through them with all the tlc.depends on how much your looken to get out of it but some better heads would be a +.maybe some of the turbo guys on here will help you out with best ideas. Cool
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Post  danger ranger on March 23rd 2010, 7:20 am

i have the factory cj head mild port work and 225 int valve they should be my best choice for the job and real close or even better than the square port chevy stuff he will be using. im sure it will not last very long i just need to get as much as i can out of it with a 100 mm or so turbo or even twin 88

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Post  dfree383 on March 23rd 2010, 8:04 am

You can get 700 hp N/A no problem with the CJ Heads on top a 460 stroke bottom end and some Compression and RPM, so my guess with some boost 1000-1200 should be doable with out getting crazy.
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Post  danger ranger on March 23rd 2010, 8:08 am

that can work. can that be done with a blow threw

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Post  danger ranger on March 23rd 2010, 8:11 am

what kind of ign or comp will this thing need or can it be a vacum deal for control

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Post  dfree383 on March 23rd 2010, 8:52 am

You'd have to talk with some Carb guys, but my guess would be Yes. As far as compression and amount of boost alot depends on fuel and the combo, but again from my limited knowlage on forced induction 8:1-9:1 is conservitive.

on the Ignition I'd assume you'd want something like a digital 7AL or better, may even want some sensors / data system for tuning and monitoring everything.
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Re: help with factory block + head turbo build

Post  whatbumper on March 23rd 2010, 10:06 am

with a turbo motor using a stock block I wouldn't worry about heads too much. You can put anything on there that will flow enough to break the factory block with a decent turbo. the ones you have will work great. A 101mm turbo has the capability of upwards of 2000+ horsepower and twin 88's you're looking at the capability of 2500+. the 101 will work on what you are doing but I would suggest calling any reputable turbo company to discuss. I favor precision, turbonetics, or billet turbochargers but there are more out there. The key to you would be turbo A/R and convertor setup. What kind of intercooler do you plan to run? Air to air?

I would recommend a digital 7 ignition just for the tuning ability.

Compression needs to be 8.5:1 area.

Unless you are going to deal directly with Steve Morris of New Era Racecraft(http://www.neweraracecraft.com/), not SMRE, I would not mess with the blow through setup. For the money that you will spend on a good carb setup you can usually find a good used BS3 or Fast XFI system. For the novice tuners like most of us the injection setup is easier to tune. Not knocking the blow through stuff but those stinking blowthrough carbs cost an arm and leg.

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Re: help with factory block + head turbo build

Post  danger ranger on March 23rd 2010, 10:26 am

i have the billet gt 47-88 that i plan to use on a 600ci or so not sure about the heads but i have a set of early tfs heads i think the flow numbers where 490 and 360 @ 800 with a 2.45 int 1.925 exh

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Post  danger ranger on March 23rd 2010, 10:41 am

i can use an 88 single even im just looking for a 1200 to 1400 range

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Post  danger ranger on March 23rd 2010, 10:44 am

i read in a book that someone was doing a 427 maybe with a blow threw capable 0f 1400 or 1600 i think with no cooler is that posible

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Post  whatbumper on March 23rd 2010, 11:45 am

danger ranger wrote:i read in a book that someone was doing a 427 maybe with a blow threw capable 0f 1400 or 1600 i think with no cooler is that posible

That would probably work with race gas or better yet alcohol. The blow through setup is very good and is proven. An 88mm on a big block is small but it will work if you have the right A/R housing.

I would contact New Era Racecraft for suggestions. I have never personally dealt with Steve Morris but his reputation is hard to beat in this area.

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