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Post  bruno on April 20th 2010, 7:31 am

so when you guys talk about convertors and talk about when the shift comes in the it drops rpms ..what is the ideal drop between shifts ?

how do you know you are "driving thru a convertor" and is that the same as
"blowing thru a convertor" ........ just curious ??

thxs for everyones input
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Re: convertor talk ?

Post  whatbumper on April 20th 2010, 8:51 am

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Post  the Coug on April 20th 2010, 9:05 am

Nick the ideal drop is not as easy as 1 2 3, from what I understand is it needs to drop RPM back onto your Torque Peak, RPM..... this is so it will use the High Torque numbers to pull it back into the Peak Hp range.....I hope that makes sense.... you have your dyno Numbers look at them and figure out what you need...... then ask your converter guy to set up for your App.....



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Post  Maddmattmustangs on April 20th 2010, 9:08 am

the Coug wrote:Nick the ideal drop is not as easy as 1 2 3, from what I understand is it needs to drop RPM back onto your Torque Peak, RPM..... this is so it will use the High Torque numbers to pull it back into the Peak Hp range.....I hope that makes sense.... you have your dyno Numbers look at them and figure out what you need...... then ask your converter guy to set up for your App.....



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thats exactly why im going to dyno all my engines for now on BEFORE they go into the car. Id like to get the combo right the first time. more money upfront but less headache and money later. Very Happy

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Post  richter69 on April 20th 2010, 11:55 am

Maddmattmustangs wrote:
the Coug wrote:Nick the ideal drop is not as easy as 1 2 3, from what I understand is it needs to drop RPM back onto your Torque Peak, RPM..... this is so it will use the High Torque numbers to pull it back into the Peak Hp range.....I hope that makes sense.... you have your dyno Numbers look at them and figure out what you need...... then ask your converter guy to set up for your App.....



Randy


thats exactly why im going to dyno all my engines for now on BEFORE they go into the car. Id like to get the combo right the first time. more money upfront but less headache and money later. Very Happy


Yhats a help, and a good converter guy like Lenny will get it damn close, but a max effort deal might need a small tweak or two.

The harder I spin mine the harder it "locks up", if I shift at 7000 it falls back to 6000, if I shift at 7400 it falls back to 6000.

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Post  cool40 on April 20th 2010, 9:47 pm

richter69 wrote:
Maddmattmustangs wrote:
the Coug wrote:Nick the ideal drop is not as easy as 1 2 3, from what I understand is it needs to drop RPM back onto your Torque Peak, RPM..... this is so it will use the High Torque numbers to pull it back into the Peak Hp range.....I hope that makes sense.... you have your dyno Numbers look at them and figure out what you need...... then ask your converter guy to set up for your App.....



Randy


thats exactly why im going to dyno all my engines for now on BEFORE they go into the car. Id like to get the combo right the first time. more money upfront but less headache and money later. Very Happy


Yhats a help, and a good converter guy like Lenny will get it damn close, but a max effort deal might need a small tweak or two.

The harder I spin mine the harder it "locks up", if I shift at 7000 it falls back to 6000, if I shift at 7400 it falls back to 6000.
does it go any faster when you shift at 7400? Question

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Post  richter69 on April 21st 2010, 7:21 am

yes

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Post  badnotch on April 22nd 2010, 1:07 pm

nick spend $ 1000 and buy a data logger -its an awsome tool

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Post  bruno on April 22nd 2010, 1:29 pm

badnotch wrote: nick spend $ 1000 and buy a data logger -its an awsome tool


Wont a 7531t data log

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Post  KY JELLY on April 22nd 2010, 2:10 pm

how you pullin 7400rpm with street heads Fabio ? lol!

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Post  badnotch on April 22nd 2010, 3:44 pm

not sure if its got a collar that goes to drive shaft then i would say yes

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Post  richter69 on April 23rd 2010, 8:02 am

KY JELLY wrote:how you pullin 7400rpm with street heads Fabio ? lol!



what yours wouldn't? Very Happy

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Post  Oldani on April 23rd 2010, 8:19 pm

whatbumper wrote:I know one mistake that a lot of people make in high rpm apps in a powerglide is that they fail to relieve the pump drain back and the convertor fills full with fluid and stops working correctly.


Huh? That has nothing to do with it. The pump drain back hole? If you're referring to the hole behind the front seal all that does is allow fluid that comes by the converter bushing to return to the pan. The outlet path for fluid leaving the converter is usually larger than the feed size smallest area which is at the valve body 99% of the time. And the converter should be full of fluid to function properly. No fluid... no go. Air in the converter... cavitation time and converter damage occurs.

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Post  KY JELLY on April 24th 2010, 4:58 am

richter69 wrote:
KY JELLY wrote:how you pullin 7400rpm with street heads Fabio ? lol!



what yours wouldn't? Very Happy


no , the 466 would run quicker shifting at 7000 Cool

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Post  richter69 on April 24th 2010, 9:34 am

KY JELLY wrote:
richter69 wrote:
KY JELLY wrote:how you pullin 7400rpm with street heads Fabio ? lol!



what yours wouldn't? Very Happy


no , the 466 would run quicker shifting at 7000 Cool



I guess my low compression over cammed 529 likes the rpm lol. The cam is still advanced a bunch as well.

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