65 TBolt

747JetMech on May 15th 2010, 4:24 pm

I watched that YouTube video you posted. Reminds me of those balsa wood airplanes with rubber band propellers! Diiligas Dave, have you watched that video and what are your comments? Also what the heck does the "W" mean?

Tom

the Coug on May 15th 2010, 4:44 pm

747JetMech wrote:I watched that YouTube video you posted. Reminds me of those balsa wood airplanes with rubber band propellers! Diiligas Dave, have you watched that video and what are your comments? Also what the heck does the "W" mean?

Tom

Matt if you remember here a while Back Bruno was wining about how W's don't count, well this is daves way of givin Bruno heck and not saying a word....

Randy

jasonf on May 15th 2010, 5:32 pm

the Coug wrote:yes Jason but not everyone has $3000 to throw at a front end...

Randy

A budget was not mentioned. But that being said, even if you do a MII it is still going to cost you $2k or more. When you want to put something where it was not designed to be then it costs more than normal. That is plain and simple. The only way to change that is if you have the skill, knowledge and equipment to build your own stuff which is rare.

DILLIGASDAVE wrote:A word of warning on the "new redesigned" AJE Fox strut K members for the early fords, if you buy one be sure and measure everything......and I mean EVERYTHING. Unfortunately I had to work on one a few weeks ago and it was a FUUKING mess. The current AJE design is either their 2nd or 3rd design rework of their original Fox K member for the early Ford and either they have a problem with their new jig layout, or their workers are just making stupid mistakes.

The one I worked on had at least 3 different centerlines depending on what part of the K member you were measuring. The rack & it's mounts were installed offset to the driver side about a 3/8", but the lower control arm mounts were offset the other direction to the passenger side about 1/2". One lower control arm mount was welded together without enough inside clearance, so you couldn't get either the A-arm or it's bushing in there with out grinding both. And two important front gussets that tie the top half to the lower half were welded on directly in the path of the rack's boots, instead of behind the rack boots. And it's welds looked more like crappy stick welds than wire welds. Plus there was a joint or two they forgot to weld. I compared this crappy "new" redesign K member to one of their first desigsn for the early Fords. The original design had no support for the rear control arm bushing because they mounted it in single-shear only, but the fit/finish/workmanship was much better. This "new" design cures any support problems for the control arm bushings since everything is now mounted in double-shear, but if the one I worked on is the "norm", the fit/finish/workmanship just fuukin sucks.

The guy that owned the K member said that his shop has run into a few of the new redesigned K members that also had fuuk-ups too. They have spoke with AJE a few times about these problems & AJE claims the production problems are now fixed. BUT it would still be smart to double check everything if you buy one of their K members, just to be sure.

I had not heard that but it is good to know, thanks.

Well you could always just do the crites notch. That would be the lowest cost option. I personally don't like it because it has to be a nightmare to change header gaskets. It is hard enough with my small block that I couldn't imagine a big block.

cool40 on May 15th 2010, 9:46 pm

if you're gona run a cage you can use fox mustang stuff with coilover kit and put r/p on it too.mount the strut to the top down bars and fab or maybe use a tube fox a frame on bottom.thats what i used and it's worked well for a race car. Cool

DILLIGASDAVE on May 15th 2010, 10:28 pm

747JetMech wrote:Diiligas Dave, have you watched that video and what are your comments?

Not yet, the video is just too big for crappy dial up. Mad

747JetMech wrote:Also what the heck does the "W" mean?

Wat Da Coug said. Laughing

You know a lot has been said for years (good/bad) about swapping the Mustang II stuff (home built & kits) under other cars. But as far as the "kits" go no one really ever makes the distinction between choosing a light weight "drag only" kit vs a beefier "street rod(ish)" kit. Most people against the Mustang II stuff mention it lacking enough suspension travel. And It's true that the stock Mustang II's somewhat short control arm length does increase tire side-scrub numbers a bit if a decent amount of suspension travel is allowed. But it's really the drag only kits (with the super short coil overs) that can end up being really short on travel numbers. And if the "drag kit" happens to use A-arms that use spherical joints (instead of OEM ball joints) the travel is going to need to be even less to avoid binding.

I think this is where some people might sometimes make the mistake & buy the wrong "style" Mustang II kit for a car's intended use because they might be looking at price instead of how the car will be used.

So if someone had made up their mind that a Mustang II setup was the only way to go (vs Fox struts, or modifying the stock setup) it would be wise to buy the kit that matches the car's intended use vs buying a kit on price only.

'65 T-BOLT on May 16th 2010, 11:54 am

this is one pic of the 65 falcon

'65 T-BOLT on May 16th 2010, 11:55 am

sorry they are big...i did shrink them down

windsor on May 29th 2010, 3:01 pm

that looks pretty sweet, T-Bolt. I was contemplating doing something similar, but not being there to go over the build up, I just decided on a MII from RC.

'65 T-BOLT on May 30th 2010, 12:58 am

that's cool! my friend wants to sell all the front suspension out of the Falcon and go with the Mustang 2 cross member from the Weld it series! I think he is worse than a woman!

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