How to determine data from a torque converter?

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How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  dutchie on May 30th 2010, 3:15 am

Hello,

Can anyone tell me how i can determine data (stall speed) from a (new) converter that i have laying around?
There's nothing written on the converter itself.
Can one determine / estimate based on thickness, diameter, or other variables?

thanks.

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  the Coug on May 30th 2010, 6:36 am

install it and find out that the only way I know.


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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  cool40 on May 30th 2010, 10:02 pm

send it to your choice of converter builders and cut it open,they can tell you what you got and hopefully make it what you want. Smile

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  whatbumper on May 30th 2010, 11:23 pm

^^^^^What they said. I like coll40's better because then your converter guy can make it what it needs to be.

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  dutchie on May 31st 2010, 10:54 am

hmmm....
thats a bit sad...
i think i'll go for the first option, and disassemble / replace it when it's NOT what i want... Wink

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  cool40 on May 31st 2010, 10:09 pm

dutchie wrote:hmmm....
thats a bit sad...
i think i'll go for the first option, and disassemble / replace it when it's NOT what i want... Wink
i'd want to know a little about the converter before i went to the trouble of tryen it out.you did say it was new so it should be pritty safe but i've saw cheap converters scrap a good trans.

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  whatbumper on May 31st 2010, 10:49 pm

cool40 wrote:
dutchie wrote:hmmm....
thats a bit sad...
i think i'll go for the first option, and disassemble / replace it when it's NOT what i want... Wink
i'd want to know a little about the converter before i went to the trouble of tryen it out.you did say it was new so it should be pritty safe but i've saw cheap converters scrap a good trans.


I agree. It is pretty cheap to get it checked out. Most any converter company can check it out and make adjustments.

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  dutchie on June 13th 2010, 12:00 pm

Just overlooked the converter.
It's ingraved with "F49" , then painted turquoise.
With a permanent marker there's written " DF 5/6 LS" on it.
Do these numbers mean anything to someone?
Tried google, and comes with following: "E4OD/4R100 12" 1.375 PILOT,89UP,LS, LU, 300,460 ENG DF56LS"

Does this mean a stallspeed of 1375 Rpm?




When i'd have it checked, how do they do this?

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  DFI429 on June 13th 2010, 3:29 pm

dutchie wrote:Just overlooked the converter.
It's ingraved with "F49" , then painted turquoise.
With a permanent marker there's written " DF 5/6 LS" on it.
Do these numbers mean anything to someone?
Tried google, and comes with following: "E4OD/4R100 12" 1.375 PILOT,89UP,LS, LU, 300,460 ENG DF56LS"

Does this mean a stallspeed of 1375 Rpm?




When i'd have it checked, how do they do this?

Thanks.


Are you looking to use this with a C6/BBF? E4OD/4R100 transmissions are like a C6 with 4 speeds, and came in trucks & vans, but I'm not sure if the input shafts match up. I'll let someone else chime in there. Your numbers show a 12" converter, with a 1.375" pilot, which is 460-compatible, and I'm pretty sure the LU stands for "lock-up", a feature used only by the E4OD/4R100. Again, that may make it incompatible with the C6 also. And finally, it's for 1989 and up overdrive transmissions.

Hope that helps

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  dutchie on June 13th 2010, 3:52 pm

Doesn't really help, but thanks for the effort taken.
It's not for a C6, it's for a E4OD that i plan to put to my 466.
The converter sat in it, so it fits..
I only need to know the specs of the stall of it..
I "think" that the LS stands for "low stall" , but how low exactly isn't mentioned unfortunately.

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  whitefield on June 13th 2010, 8:37 pm

I would suggest you get it checked before you put it in. Those transmissions are to big and heavy to be putting in and pulling out . IMHO! Good luck!

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  bb429power on June 15th 2010, 6:19 pm

dutchie wrote:
I "think" that the LS stands for "low stall" , but how low exactly isn't mentioned unfortunately.

That's what I figured. A way to find out is to spin it by hand until it locks up at like 1800 rpm's or whatever. Might take some effort but have a buddy sit and watch the revolutions. Laughing I wish I knew too, I'm in the same situation but I'm just going to get a new one. I don't feel like having to pull it back out because its not what I wanted, your best bet is to get a new one. Might not be what you want to hear but you'll probably thank me later when you go to do a burnout.

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  dfree383 on June 17th 2010, 1:17 pm

I'd venture to guess being 12" it's pretty mild, 1500-1800 is pretty typical stock stuff.

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  dutchie on June 17th 2010, 2:06 pm

that is my thought also.
olnly thing is, when i run 1700rpm highway cruise, just up to stall, won't it slip just a bit and generate tremendous heat?
I thought that RPM in lockup always should be past stall Rpm?

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Re: How to determine data from a torque converter?

Post  richter69 on June 17th 2010, 2:49 pm

Sounds like a Precision unit, had nothin but trouble out of them behind diesel stuff.................

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