Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  bruno on August 26th 2009, 7:46 pm

so how much taller from the top of my carb now is it going to raise if i go with a sing carb tr ??

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  richter69 on August 26th 2009, 7:49 pm

Your gonna need a big scoop Nick............ Laughing

They are ok, driving through the pits kinda suck though, really got to pay attention as you can see anything on the other side of the thing lol.

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  c.evans on August 26th 2009, 8:49 pm

RGL wrote:I have not fooled with the tfs TR before, but i'd be intrested in how much CSA there is available at the runner entry in the plenum, or how big can it physically go before welding,ect ? runner lenghts would also be nice too.


The new style TFS A-460 tunnel ram has really thick walls. Probally on the order of .250"+. I have never seen anybody have to weld the outside of the runners, in order to physically port them larger. I would say if a guy did have to weld the outside of the runners, then he probally screwed up somewhere in his porting efforts. It's a very good manifold, and on the old forum we saw where Frank Merkl made 1440? Hp with his 572 CID C-460 headed engine, my adapter plates, and the TFS A-460 tunnel ram intake maniold, on spray.

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Post  RGL on August 26th 2009, 10:41 pm

thanks Mr evans , i had never seen one in person , just wanted to know if it had enough meat in it to put 30%ish taper into the runner for some profilers , sounds like it might have it

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Post  c.evans on August 26th 2009, 11:16 pm

RGL wrote:thanks Mr evans , i had never seen one in person , just wanted to know if it had enough meat in it to put 30%ish taper into the runner for some profilers , sounds like it might have it


Well, IMO a 30% taper is a little too much. I think Darin Morgan at ProFiler would agree with me on that. I have been encouraging both Darin and Micheal Greene at ProFiler to make a dedicated tunnel ram intake manifold for their Ford 205 heads. I've been doing it for about 1.5 years, and honestly they haven't shown too much interest. So, I do make an adapter set to put the TFS tunnel ram 2 X 4 intake manifold on the ProFiler # 205 heads. You need to realize that the ProFiler ports are raised +.200" over the Ford C-460 heads. Therefore this adapter plate has to be thicker, than the C-460 adapter plates like what Nevs has. I presently have two sets of them in stock, (along with taller china wall spacers) and ready to ship. Note, that because they are thicker, they are heavier.

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  Doug Rahn on August 29th 2009, 5:48 pm

Nick, the single four pentroof top is actually taller than 2x4 like I have, so you would have to have a scoop at least as big as mine.


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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  fstrthnu373 on May 8th 2011, 11:56 am

sorry to bring an old thread back up but how does the tfs tunnel ram with singal carb do as far as cylinder distribution, are the egts close cylinder to cylinder or does it starve the outer four?

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  c.evans on May 8th 2011, 1:11 pm

We did the dyno testing for TFS using the pent roof top on George and Carl Keown's 572 TFS A-460 headed engine. That was several years ago, but I do remember that the EGT's were very consistent for all 8 cylinders and showed absolutely no fuel distribution problems. I gave copies of the dyno pulls with both the 2 X 4 top and the pent roof top to Ron and Mark at TFS.

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  Larry Williams on May 8th 2011, 3:36 pm

no one has answered the original question yet. how much taller than a cast manifold is a tunnel ram manifold? I am curious now too lol

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  rmcomprandy on May 8th 2011, 6:11 pm

The adapters and the TFS cast tunnel ram for the "A" heads fit the "C" heads very well after a bit of port matching.

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  dfree383 on May 9th 2011, 6:59 am

Larry Williams wrote:no one has answered the original question yet. how much taller than a cast manifold is a tunnel ram manifold? I am curious now too lol


at least 6" for the 2x4 and probably 8-10" for the single 4 top.

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Re: Comparing Sheetmetal Tunnel Ram to cast single Four

Post  DanH on May 9th 2011, 7:17 am

Larry Williams wrote:no one has answered the original question yet. how much taller than a cast manifold is a tunnel ram manifold? I am curious now too lol
you mean C460 cast single 4 to a A460 with Single 4 top .. about 4.6 inch taller . then add what the spacers add to the hieght when TR is used with C460 heads . note: spacers and gasket total thicknees will add a little less height than total

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