External oil pump -- Converting a conventional wet sump oil pan

I am considering purchasing an external oil pump. I want to buy a two stage pump with the oil pump and a scavenger (to pull the oil from my low mounted turbo). Can a wet sump oil pan be converted to properly work with an external oil pump? I've looked at Petersen's website and don't see any mention of conversion parts...

Thanks for the help!!!

Have a good day!
Michael

Have used both style with good results, my current pan uses the later, i do have an inline screen that is acessed from the outside.

richter69 wrote:Have used both style with good results, my current pan uses the later, i do have an inline screen that is acessed from the outside.

External screen is better.........inspection and cleaning....i.m.o.

Guys, thanks for you input! That's simple enough!

Side thought of the day:
I find that the further outside of the proverbial box I consider going, the more difficult it is to find information. You can google a H/C/I swap all day long. But, when you start talking about 'ultra high performance' (my term for it) such as dry sumps, external wet sumps, belt driven fuel pumps, drive mandrels, ect...the information isn't nearly as accessible... . It almost seems like you have to know one of 'the' guys at the local track to see this stuff in action.

/Side thought of the day/

Have a good day!
Michael

Lem Evans wrote:

richter69 wrote:Have used both style with good results, my current pan uses the later, i do have an inline screen that is acessed from the outside.

External screen is better.........inspection and cleaning....i.m.o.

10-4 on that externally accessable screen. I am convinced that it will save a $$ oil pump from assorted trash. I found a little sliver from the end of a valve spring in one of mine.........
Keith

Wheelie58 wrote:

Lem Evans wrote:

richter69 wrote:Have used both style with good results, my current pan uses the later, i do have an inline screen that is acessed from the outside.

External screen is better.........inspection and cleaning....i.m.o.

10-4 on that externally accessable screen. I am convinced that it will save a $$ oil pump from assorted trash. I found a little sliver from the end of a valve spring in one of mine.........
Keith

X3 that!

I'm running a front sump Canton T-style pan due to ground clearance and occasional open track use and I fabbed the pick up tube from 1" thin wall material and the orginal Canton welded screen box pickup. Because of the shape and location of the pan vs. the chassis elements I welded the #16 steel AN male end to the pick-up tube just outside the driver side front of the pan and then had to use a 120* hose end and about 12" of #16 hose to connect to the Peterson Wet/Vac pump. The stiffness of the #16 line at that length makes for just enough movement in the pump to properly tension the Gilmer belt.

The #16 size pick-up is required to offset the effect of the two stages of scavenge on the Wet/Vac external oil/vacuum pump. I use the Star Machine adjustable vacuum break limited to 12" so it doesn't dry out the wrist pins. I see 2-5" at normal street driving, highway speeds.

Because I run serpentine style belts to the alternator and PS pump, its a street car, the oil pump mandrel is out front of the pulley and the Peterson pump mount is spaced out accordingly. It sounds bad but everything is accessable and serviceable and low.

I'd talk to Peterson about their recommdation for a single scavenge stage deal for the turbo return oiling.

I like the idea of an external screen as I had a thrashed roller lifter and the junk from that required a full rebuild of the external pump. Does anybody have a recomendation? It would need to be #16 inline.

Peterson has what you need. That's what is in my photo above. Hard to see but it's the red cylinder behind the K member.

I too am seriously considering an external pump. Any and all recommendations are very much appreciated.

If either of you decide to go the external pump route, I have a spare new Peterson Wet/Vac pump I will sell.

Doug Rahn wrote:If either of you decide to go the external pump route, I have a spare new Peterson Wet/Vac pump I will sell.

PM Sent .

Have a good day!
Michael

Doug Rahn wrote:If either of you decide to go the external pump route, I have a spare new Peterson Wet/Vac pump I will sell.

Hey Doug, I would be interested in your Petersen pump, what model is it specifically. Can you give me an idea about how much I would have into this converstion, and what all I need? I know I need a pickup, the pump, pump mount, "do they sell mounts or do I need to fab my own", drive mandrel, fittings and lines. I have a Canton block adapter now and a remote filter setup, I think these components will work. I also have a Canton pan with trap doors, I believe this pan will work also.

I have very little knowledge on external pump systems so any advice and any pictures of your setup would be very much appreciated.

Thanks Doug.

Vern