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Post  Larry T August 27th 2010, 10:24 pm

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Larry T wrote:i went the 3/8 x.135 wall Pixi sticks (push rods) instead of the .080 on my new deal this time.


isnt there a fine line beween weight and strength ....... what are your rpms larry ?

we seen some marks on the valve stems we were not happy with probably from valve float,i only seen 7000 rpm one time.i need to build a little higher rpm in my combo so that if i need it all is good,say around 72/7500.the thiner wall versus the thicker wall of the pixi sticks tests its eye opening.
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Post  richter69 August 28th 2010, 1:17 am

bruno wrote:p-51 , big cubes, alky(m5) injected ..... Twisted Evil 1000 plus hp Wink ...what are you doing for rockers ?


reusing my same old blue Lunati's.

I plan on using the thicker wall 3/8 pushrods myself vs the 7/16..................I got a real light package on the long side of that intake rocker............ Wink

This build was about reusing a lot of my stuff, I'm not even gonna need to rebalance the deal............... Very Happy
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Post  138 August 28th 2010, 1:14 pm

bruno wrote:138 you are the official drama queen Razz Razz
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Post  Lem Evans August 28th 2010, 8:17 pm

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138.....if you speak of the TFS A460 heads.......they do have more up side.

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Post  richter69 August 28th 2010, 8:22 pm

My reasoning for the P51 was to use the majority of what I got............and to fit my current configuration. Was gonna do the bigger bore thing anyway, pistons cost the same for a P51 as they do a Street head......keep a flat top deal..............not gain extra weight.
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Post  138 August 28th 2010, 8:31 pm

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Post  StephenW August 30th 2010, 4:57 am

Trick and Mansweto Racing in Sydney has a CNC program for the P-51s. No flow numbers available but my 545 made 950hp with a 2.25 valve before it went kaboom.
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Post  res0rli9 August 30th 2010, 8:03 am

StephenW wrote:Trick and Mansweto Racing in Sydney has a CNC program for the P-51s. No flow numbers available but my 545 made 950hp with a 2.25 valve before it went kaboom.

nice #s tell us more about your build Smile

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Post  bruno August 30th 2010, 9:04 am

StephenW wrote:Trick and Mansweto Racing in Sydney has a CNC program for the P-51s. No flow numbers available but my 545 made 950hp with a 2.25 valve before it went kaboom.

sorry to hear that Stephen ......very impressive numbers to say the least , can you share the build Wink

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Post  StephenW August 30th 2010, 9:50 am

Here's the link to the original 850 hp build:
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122669
To make the extra 100 hp, the heads were given the full CNC treatment, a sheetmetal intake and the cam was reground to give .820+ lift with 1.8 crower rockers.

Here's the carnage and the post mortem:
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145143

I have an Evans Ford supplied A-460 block and a pair of TFS A-460 heads waiting to go together.
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Post  138 August 30th 2010, 4:42 pm

stephen is a good dude.. he sold me his busted up cobra jet grille so I could use the pieces to fix mine for a really respectable price... glad to see your rebuilding one of the baddest Torinos on the planet Wink

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Post  Diggindeeper August 30th 2010, 8:31 pm

richter69 wrote:
bruno wrote:p-51 , big cubes, alky(m5) injected ..... Twisted Evil 1000 plus hp Wink ...what are you doing for rockers ?


reusing my same old blue Lunati's.

I plan on using the thicker wall 3/8 pushrods myself vs the 7/16..................I got a real light package on the long side of that intake rocker............ Wink

This build was about reusing a lot of my stuff, I'm not even gonna need to rebalance the deal............... Very Happy

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Post  KY JELLY August 30th 2010, 8:59 pm

StephenW wrote:Here's the link to the original 850 hp build:
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122669
To make the extra 100 hp, the heads were given the full CNC treatment, a sheetmetal intake and the cam was reground to give .820+ lift with 1.8 crower rockers.

Here's the carnage and the post mortem:
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145143

I have an Evans Ford supplied A-460 block and a pair of TFS A-460 heads waiting to go together.

who made that sheet metal manifold in your pics that looks like a nice piece , I be wanting one of them Smile
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Post  richter69 August 30th 2010, 9:00 pm

KY JELLY wrote:
StephenW wrote:Here's the link to the original 850 hp build:
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122669
To make the extra 100 hp, the heads were given the full CNC treatment, a sheetmetal intake and the cam was reground to give .820+ lift with 1.8 crower rockers.

Here's the carnage and the post mortem:
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145143

I have an Evans Ford supplied A-460 block and a pair of TFS A-460 heads waiting to go together.

who made that sheet metal manifold in your pics that looks like a nice piece , I be wanting one of them Smile




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Post  StephenW August 30th 2010, 10:21 pm

who made that sheet metal manifold in your pics that looks like a nice piece , I be wanting one of them

The guys who built the motor, Trick and Mansweto Racing made the manifold. The cnc machined billet runners do make it very visually pleasing.
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Post  Lem Evans August 30th 2010, 10:26 pm

"I be wanting one of them"
Get your C460 stuff from under the bed Evil or Very Mad

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Post  c.evans August 31st 2010, 2:23 am

Lem Evans wrote: "I be wanting one of them"
Get your C460 stuff from under the bed Evil or Very Mad

Good question Lem. You and I are on the same page with this one. I don't know why he isn't wanting to get the C-460 headed engine done,,,,but I wish he would. Maybe he's scared of going in the fours. Twisted Evil Looks like you and I are going to have to do it for him, or at least kick him in the ass until he gets it done. Twisted Evil Let's run down to Benton Saturday morning and gather up all the parts, bring 'em home and get started on it. Laughing

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Post  KY JELLY August 31st 2010, 8:50 am

c.evans wrote:
Lem Evans wrote: "I be wanting one of them"
Get your C460 stuff from under the bed Evil or Very Mad

Good question Lem. You and I are on the same page with this one. I don't know why he isn't wanting to get the C-460 headed engine done,,,,but I wish he would. Maybe he's scared of going in the fours. Twisted Evil Looks like you and I are going to have to do it for him, or at least kick him in the ass until he gets it done. Twisted Evil Let's run down to Benton Saturday morning and gather up all the parts, bring 'em home and get started on it. Laughing

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that's too easy and would be like takin candy from a kid with them blown dixie chitolets I run with lol!

not to mention my wallet is gonna take a pretty big hit with this cracked transmission case on this powerstroke affraid
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Post  richter69 August 31st 2010, 9:05 am

KY JELLY wrote:
c.evans wrote:
Lem Evans wrote: "I be wanting one of them"
Get your C460 stuff from under the bed Evil or Very Mad

Good question Lem. You and I are on the same page with this one. I don't know why he isn't wanting to get the C-460 headed engine done,,,,but I wish he would. Maybe he's scared of going in the fours. Twisted Evil Looks like you and I are going to have to do it for him, or at least kick him in the ass until he gets it done. Twisted Evil Let's run down to Benton Saturday morning and gather up all the parts, bring 'em home and get started on it. Laughing

Uncle Charlie

that's too easy and would be like takin candy from a kid with them blown dixie chitolets I run with lol!

not to mention my wallet is gonna take a pretty big hit with this cracked transmission case on this powerstroke affraid


whats up with the truck tranny?
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Post  KY JELLY August 31st 2010, 9:16 am

the case is cracked on the tail over the reverse / low pack and leaks like a gusher when in reverse. Thinking back it started right after that cv joint deal in the driveshaft went out. I thought I caught that pretty quick , but guess not quick enough. Supposedly the transfer case amplifies the vibration and cracks them. I guess the crack just kept growing I first noticed a small leak about a year ago.
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Post  richter69 August 31st 2010, 9:25 am

KY JELLY wrote:the case is cracked on the tail over the reverse / low pack and leaks like a gusher when in reverse. Thinking back it started right after that cv joint deal in the driveshaft went out. I thought I caught that pretty quick , but guess not quick enough. Supposedly the transfer case amplifies the vibration and cracks them. I guess the crack just kept growing I first noticed a small leak about a year ago.

yep thats what happens.

If you lived closer I'd say bring it over we'd fix that sucker...............
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Post  schmitty August 31st 2010, 1:32 pm

richter69 wrote:yep thats what happens.

If you lived closer I'd say bring it over we'd fix that sucker...............
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Post  richter69 August 31st 2010, 1:36 pm

schmitty wrote:
richter69 wrote:yep thats what happens.

If you lived closer I'd say bring it over we'd fix that sucker...............
Jon you better be carefull or there will be some guys thinking that deep down you are a nice guy. Very Happy


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Post  IDT-572 August 31st 2010, 1:38 pm

richter69 wrote:
schmitty wrote:
richter69 wrote:yep thats what happens.

If you lived closer I'd say bring it over we'd fix that sucker...............
Jon you better be carefull or there will be some guys thinking that deep down you are a nice guy. Very Happy


I'm just a 43% dick................ Wink

I would have guess that percentage a little higher............... Laughing Razz
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Post  schmitty August 31st 2010, 2:15 pm

IDT-572 wrote:
richter69 wrote:
schmitty wrote:
richter69 wrote:yep thats what happens.

If you lived closer I'd say bring it over we'd fix that sucker...............
Jon you better be carefull or there will be some guys thinking that deep down you are a nice guy. Very Happy


I'm just a 43% dick................ Wink

I would have guess that percentage a little higher............... Laughing Razz
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