How to lower compression from 13.2 to pump gas

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Post  Hogwash on September 16th 2010, 11:23 pm

Hi Guys

If i put new pistons in what else do i have to do? balancing , cams swap,etc. Sorry im new to the bbf thing any advice would help

Thanks Drew

Here is my setup
521 CID
Compression 13.3
Intake Valve 2.190
Exhaust Valve 1.760
Rod 6.700
Cam Lift Intake .741
Cam Lift Exhaust .715
Intake Duration @ .050 268
Exhaust Duration @ .050 274
Combustion Space 86.91 cc
Bore 4.395
Stroke 4.300
Heads Edelbrock Victor CJ
Rods & Crank are Eagle
Pistons are JE
DIVE A BLOCK
4 BOLT MAINS
JOMAR STUD GIRDLE
EDELBROCK VICTOR 4500 INTAKE
MOROSO RACING PAN
1050 cfm DOMINATOR CARB
Mezeriere tall water pump
all ARP studs
Danny Bee Belt Drive Kit
msd flying magnet crank trigger

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Re: How to lower compression from 13.2 to pump gas

Post  schmitty on September 17th 2010, 12:06 am

If you can get a set of dish pistons that are the same weight as what you have now, you won't need to rebalance. You could get with one of the guys that are Diamond piston dealers, because it's gonna take a pretty big hole on top to drop that C/R down to 10:1 or less and Diamond will make you whatever you need. Cool

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Post  dfree383 on September 17th 2010, 5:11 am

With the aluminum heads and larger cam, you can get away with 11:1 ish and run on 91.

Have you thought about e85?

Run some dynamic compression calculators and see where the real compression currently is, and go from their.

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Re: How to lower compression from 13.2 to pump gas

Post  Doug Rahn on September 17th 2010, 5:24 am

Without knowing other variables in the formula, I took a guess at them and a 20cc dish will get you approximately 9.97 to 1.

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Post  maverick on September 17th 2010, 5:26 am

dfree383 wrote:With the aluminum heads and larger cam, you can get away with 11:1 ish and run on 91.

Have you thought about e85?

Run some dynamic compression calculators and see where the real compression currently is, and go from their.


Good idea there...E85 will support a buttload of compression on the street, and it's almost as cheap as bottled water. Razz

Dave, what are you doing up at this ungodly hour?

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Re: How to lower compression from 13.2 to pump gas

Post  dfree383 on September 17th 2010, 5:38 am

I'm up at 4:30 every week day..... Mans got to work... Laughing

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Post  res0rli9 on September 17th 2010, 5:42 am

dfree383 wrote:I'm up at 4:30 every week day..... Mans got to work... Laughing


did tha coug teach you that Razz

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Post  maverick on September 17th 2010, 5:51 am

dfree383 wrote:I'm up at 4:30 every week day..... Mans got to work... Laughing


Heard dat. Me?....Livin' in hotels....Boredom sometimes sends me screaming through the lobby. Exclamation

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Post  Doug Rahn on September 17th 2010, 6:07 am

dfree383 wrote:I'm up at 4:30 every week day..... Mans got to work... Laughing


You're late if your workin' with me! Mon-Thurs I'm up at 3:45am, and if I work on Fri it's 2:30! Laughing

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Re: How to lower compression from 13.2 to pump gas

Post  Hogwash on September 17th 2010, 8:45 am

dfree383 wrote:With the aluminum heads and larger cam, you can get away with 11:1 ish and run on 91.

Have you thought about e85?

Run some dynamic compression calculators and see where the real compression currently is, and go from their.


Ya i live in montreal canada we dont have that stuff here e85 fuel Sad i found some pistons for sale in racingjunk would these do ? JE PISTONS 170879
Bore Size: 4.390
Oversize: 0.030
Dome Volume: -39.0
Weight: 568

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Post  Doug Rahn on September 17th 2010, 8:53 am

39cc dish will yield about 8.75 to 1.

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Post  Hogwash on September 17th 2010, 9:49 am

Doug Rahn wrote:39cc dish will yield about 8.75 to 1.


oh wow still with those heads i have, they say its Combustion chamber volume 75cc? i though i would give me at least 10.1

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Post  Greg_P on September 17th 2010, 10:56 am

Don'y go too crazy with lowering the compression. I'm running 11.9:1 with a smaller cam and I'm sure a heavier car an having no issues on 93, so I would think that if you needed to run 91 you could get by with 11:1 and still have a very strong engine.

9 or 10:1 is just too low for that cam and also for the aluminum heads.

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Re: How to lower compression from 13.2 to pump gas

Post  Hogwash on September 17th 2010, 11:26 am

what about putting a thicker head gasket on?

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Re: How to lower compression from 13.2 to pump gas

Post  Doug Rahn on September 17th 2010, 1:33 pm

Hogwash wrote:
Doug Rahn wrote:39cc dish will yield about 8.75 to 1.


oh wow still with those heads i have, they say its Combustion chamber volume 75cc? i though i would give me at least 10.1


Did I read your specs. wrong? I did the calculations based on 86.91cc. If the combustion chamber is 73cc then the C/R will be about 9.60 to 1 with a 39cc dish.

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