Stealth CJ or Standard Stealth?

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Post  GaryS on February 25th 2011, 9:45 am

Good morning Steve,
You have been all over two forums and Craigslist looking for answers. I understand 'being on a budget' or better yet no budget. My budget is when I get to lint, I am done. You have some good stuff. Is it the best? Probably not. But it is what you have. With the heads and cam you have, the choice of intake is not going to make that much difference. You are putting something togather to have fun. So have fun.
As far as buying and selling. If you are buying, it is gold. If you are selling, it is scrap. Power has always cost money.
You did not identify your application...what are you going to do with the truck. Are you going to run the state park trails or Silver Lake or street? If you are pulling or boggin', there are class rules that will require certain equipment.
Good luck with your truck and have fun!!

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Re: Stealth CJ or Standard Stealth?

Post  velcro7279 on February 25th 2011, 9:24 pm

GaryS wrote:Good morning Steve,
You have been all over two forums and Craigslist looking for answers. I understand 'being on a budget' or better yet no budget. My budget is when I get to lint, I am done. You have some good stuff. Is it the best? Probably not. But it is what you have. With the heads and cam you have, the choice of intake is not going to make that much difference. You are putting something togather to have fun. So have fun.
As far as buying and selling. If you are buying, it is gold. If you are selling, it is scrap. Power has always cost money.
You did not identify your application...what are you going to do with the truck. Are you going to run the state park trails or Silver Lake or street? If you are pulling or boggin', there are class rules that will require certain equipment.
Good luck with your truck and have fun!!


Gary,
Been looking around quite a bit for info and advice. If budget was no object I would be building a 521 stroker like I originally had planned, but I really don't need that much engine anyway. I have a 400 with a Performer cam and intake with a 750 Edelbrock and headers in the truck now. It does most everything I need it to, but I could use a little more once in a while. I have had the 429 and everything to put it in my truck sitting around for a while now, so it seemed like the logical way to go to get something with a little more go. The headers rusted through last summer on the 400 so instead of spending $250 on headers for that I figured I would just put the 429 in.

The truck gets used for everything. It is driven on the street. It is driven on two-tracks. It climbs hills. Occasionally through the mud. Kind of a jack of all trades vehicle. I listed the rest of the specs in my first post. Like I said the 400 has done almost everything I have wanted it to do, but I just can't see all these parts I have to put the 429 in it just sitting here any longer. Thought I would see if I can get it in the truck with a minimal investment while still having a descent combination so that it will run pretty good. I ran the parts I have on my Desktop dyno and it has a pretty flat torque curve. The torque peaks about 2500 and the power peaks at 5000. The truck cruises at 55-60 at about 2700. Seemed like it would work good for what I do with it.

Like you said it is to have fun with and if I can get this 429 in it and running good for less than a grand it should make a little more fun. Thats what it's all about. Building it is half the fun for me anyway. If you can't have fun with your toys whats the point, right?

Steve

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Re: Stealth CJ or Standard Stealth?

Post  JR Performance Motorsport on February 27th 2011, 11:03 am

My question is what are the intakes of the heads ported to ? I just spent yesturday porting my Victor to cj size to match up with my BlueThunder heads. I only got the runners roughed in, I still have to do the plenum and then mill the carb flange. But my stuff is for a Comp Jet circle boat that is rarelly below 3500rpm. Ny '75 F100 had a 429 for years. It had a Crane 272 power max and a 600 Carter, it was fun on and off the street. Now it has a 464 same cam and a set of D3s that I ported and blended. The intakes are 429/460 gasket matched as well as the Stealth 8012. They have plenty size do run very good up to 5200. Now years ago they through on cj iron intakes on stock marine 460s, it was about 15hp over the stock 450 iron. But that was for a jet bout that doesnot hav to pull rpm up to 3k. They start at 3K when you hit the throttle. I also have a 8021 on a pair of D0 heads that are fully ported to cj size on a 466, my backup engine.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Stealth CJ or Standard Stealth?

Post  longroofracer on February 27th 2011, 12:14 pm

Since you have the Stealth, run it and see if the compromise is close to what you can live with... this is the "most cost effective per dollar already spent". If not, put the stocker on, or look for a used performer/rpm. You will still have the Stealth for your future build, or in case you change plans and upgrade before you get finished. Buying parts that won't work well with the combo can cost you extra money, but replacing them with others, especially if you don't have a plan to stick to, costs you even more.

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Re: Stealth CJ or Standard Stealth?

Post  the Coug on February 27th 2011, 12:49 pm

Yes what ever you want... you have been on every place asking the same question hoping someone will give you the answer you want so YES.... you are right.... Do not worry about all these guys that have been there and done it...... what the Hell do they know? you are right go for it....... Shocked

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Re: Stealth CJ or Standard Stealth?

Post  velcro7279 on February 28th 2011, 10:06 pm

JR Performance Motorsport wrote:My question is what are the intakes of the heads ported to ? I just spent yesturday porting my Victor to cj size to match up with my BlueThunder heads. I only got the runners roughed in, I still have to do the plenum and then mill the carb flange. But my stuff is for a Comp Jet circle boat that is rarelly below 3500rpm. Ny '75 F100 had a 429 for years. It had a Crane 272 power max and a 600 Carter, it was fun on and off the street. Now it has a 464 same cam and a set of D3s that I ported and blended. The intakes are 429/460 gasket matched as well as the Stealth 8012. They have plenty size do run very good up to 5200. Now years ago they through on cj iron intakes on stock marine 460s, it was about 15hp over the stock 450 iron. But that was for a jet bout that doesnot hav to pull rpm up to 3k. They start at 3K when you hit the throttle. I also have a 8021 on a pair of D0 heads that are fully ported to cj size on a 466, my backup engine.

I hope this helps.

Jim


The intakes aren't ported yet. Just the exhausts. Had not decided on intakes yet, so the intakes ports on the heads are still as-cast. Thanks for your info.

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