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Post  res0rli9 on September 4th 2009, 6:37 pm

Whats you got under the hood, 175 N/A thats gettiner done.

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Post  David Willingham on September 4th 2009, 7:35 pm

641" BBF, C heads by Bennett Performance and tweaked even more by Charlie Evans, Ti valves, Lem Evans custom roller, 16.5 CR, EFI methanol, 5-stage drysump, Star machine vp, sheetmetal intake, Enderle birdcatcher, Alan Dudley MFI system w/EFI, Ignition (individual coil packs), and Datalogging all in one box. PG trans, 4.30 gears, should weigh around 2500 lbs. We scaled it out a few years ago and it weighed 2100 lbs. I expect I'll add another 400 lbs to that with stuff I haven't thought of yet. It has a steel body, but it is butchered big time. We are using aluminum bolts and screws everywhere we can.

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Post  res0rli9 on September 4th 2009, 10:25 pm

OH I see another one if them moonshinner cams.

that sounds like badass engine, nice

we need more pics and a video when its running Very Happy

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Post  DILLIGASDAVE on September 5th 2009, 5:09 am

Old blue Racin Team wrote:Dman I think i see the tire sticking out the top of the bed Very Happy


Nah, just enough room so small road kill wont get stuck between the slick & the tub Very Happy .........


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Post  DILLIGASDAVE on September 5th 2009, 5:20 am

First shop done is with the wing behind the bed at different heights.



The Chassis Shop has a bunch of different spill plate shape/designes to choose from, not just the retro looking one pictured.

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Post  DILLIGASDAVE on September 6th 2009, 4:55 am

Second shop is with the wing in the bed at different heights.


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Post  Wayne Pearce on September 19th 2009, 4:56 pm

Hey, David: Yer gonna put yer eye out with that wing (LOL)! Why not move the wing into the pick up bed just a couple of inches behind the center line of the differential, and high enough to keep it above the wind coming over the roof of the truck ???? Just seems right to me!

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Post  DILLIGASDAVE on September 20th 2009, 4:19 am

Wayne Pearce wrote:Why not move the wing into the pick up bed just a couple of inches behind the center line of the differential

Because the farther behind axle center line you mount the wing, the greater the down force numbers will be for a set wing angle of attack because the leverage increases. As you move the wing closer & closer to the axle centerline, more & more wing angle of attack has to be adjusted in (and thus more & more air drag) just to generate the same down force numbers the wing would if mounted farther back.

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Post  BBF4xFord on September 20th 2009, 12:51 pm

I'm thinking top right is where you are going to find the air that you are looking for.

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Post  David Willingham on September 20th 2009, 10:10 pm

I'm going to remove the rear spoiler and install chassis tabs on the top frame rail behind the rear axle. If I feel I need a wing, I'm going to come off those tabs with a dragster wing 48" wide with the back of it even with the tailgate and the top will be even with the cab or maybe a little taller. I don't like the looks of anything hanging off past the tailgate.

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Post  DILLIGASDAVE on September 21st 2009, 5:00 am

Messing with a basic wind tunnel applet site and a badly drawn truck roof/covered bed outline. I couldn't draw a straight line with the mouse for $hit. Laughing Laughing
The tumbling dead air boundary layer right behind the cab really stretches out as air speed increases.






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Post  David Willingham on September 21st 2009, 8:19 am

Looks good to me.

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Post  ThndrChkn on September 22nd 2009, 10:39 am

At roughly what air speeds are those graphics taken from Dave...? Very interesting... Cool









Doug... Cool

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Post  David Willingham on September 22nd 2009, 11:26 am

Hey Doug, your truck really looks good! I noticed you don't have a front bumper. I didn't run one on mine until I found someone to make me one. The guy is in NC and he built mine in fiberglass off of my original bumper. It probably weighs 3-4 lbs tops. I can get you hooked up if you need one. Very Happy

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Post  BBF4xFord on September 22nd 2009, 12:02 pm

Although at the moment I can not find the CD there is a good white paper put out by the SAE years ago that details the air flow on a (Ford) PU into and through the bed. I'll keep looking so that I can at least give the paper number. In my reading and my testing I found results similar to your graphics. Got a link to that applet?

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